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david pecker is another one. so you know, everything trump touches, you know, it's kind of the anti-midas touch. and we're seeing that play out in real time in the courtroom. i really do wish this american public could see it. >> i agree. it was really instructive to be there. and speaking of michael cohen, he's been on this show dozens of times, a lot, and one thing that struck me, he told me, he told this audience, he told msnbc's audience the same story for years. and now, everything he said you have david pecker today backing him up. to a point, i mean, literally, he's been telling this story consistently. and so now what's happened is he's already been backed up by david pecker who was the other person in the room making this deal who said yeah, we did do a catch and kill deal. yeah, it was about the election. michael cohen had a campaign email even though he was not on the campaign. no reason for him to have a campaign email. and david pecker said, you can release these salacious stories that would have sol
david pecker is another one. so you know, everything trump touches, you know, it's kind of the anti-midas touch. and we're seeing that play out in real time in the courtroom. i really do wish this american public could see it. >> i agree. it was really instructive to be there. and speaking of michael cohen, he's been on this show dozens of times, a lot, and one thing that struck me, he told me, he told this audience, he told msnbc's audience the same story for years. and now, everything...
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with more testimony from david pecker. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, mia wylie, former civil attorney in new york, and hugo, covering washington and all things donald trump. joyce, i want to start with you. we've talked often about trying cases. when you have your case in chief, that primacy is how you do this. you start and end strong when it comes to the presentation of your witnesses. was it smart for the prosecution to start with david pecker thus far? >> well, it was smart, katie, and i am reminded that it was you who first said that you thought david pecker would be a great kickoff witness. i think that's the case, right? this is someone who doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen, and who tells the origin story. he has now walked us through the election interference conspiracy. this is now patch and kill to elect trump. that's the case that the prosecution will put on. they've done a great job of giving the jury sort of the basics, the land marks and the road map that they'll move ahead on
with more testimony from david pecker. joining us now is joyce vance, former u.s. attorney, mia wylie, former civil attorney in new york, and hugo, covering washington and all things donald trump. joyce, i want to start with you. we've talked often about trying cases. when you have your case in chief, that primacy is how you do this. you start and end strong when it comes to the presentation of your witnesses. was it smart for the prosecution to start with david pecker thus far? >> well,...
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and david, you're thoughts about what we're learning for the first time from david pecker's testimony? >> it is pretty stark. to think about practices that were in affect at the national enquirer. if you stopped someone on the street and said is the gossip tabloid going be an avatar or have secret agendas made for the stories they public or don't publish. and people thought gosh, there might be some give and take maybe there is some favoritism. but what we've learned about here is that this tabloid, that is consumed by millions of people, often on check out stands and often at home, often these days online, shared on social media, was picking and killing what stories to publish on the basis of what would help a friend ofity publisher david pecker, a friend by the name of donald trump and according to pecker's own testimony, what might embarrass his presidential came in that 2016 cycle. pecker was on board in 2016 walking through stories with michael cohen about what things they should pick to go after, hillary clinton and he had previous thought about what kind of stories earlier in t
and david, you're thoughts about what we're learning for the first time from david pecker's testimony? >> it is pretty stark. to think about practices that were in affect at the national enquirer. if you stopped someone on the street and said is the gossip tabloid going be an avatar or have secret agendas made for the stories they public or don't publish. and people thought gosh, there might be some give and take maybe there is some favoritism. but what we've learned about here is that...
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david pecker was very nakedly frankly and calmly revealing the tricks of the trade. tricks that played into his very solid but also extremely transactional friendship with donald trump. one that he called mutually beneficial for decades because trump was a key seller of his magazines. when people went into the supermarket, they wanted to buy the magazines with donald trump on the cover and when they in fact tested which celebrities were the most popular, trump ranked among the top. each and every time. so david pecker giving us a glimpse today into his relationship with donald trump, but one that i think will be nor important in the days to come when he starts testifying in earnest about what trump knew about the payments to karen mcdougle and to stormy daniels and of course, after the election, two conversations that david pecker has been privy to have had with donald trump where trump essentially thanked him for his contributions to the campaign and for making it happen. >> we can't see what's happening inside the courtroom. we're relying on a google doc to give us
david pecker was very nakedly frankly and calmly revealing the tricks of the trade. tricks that played into his very solid but also extremely transactional friendship with donald trump. one that he called mutually beneficial for decades because trump was a key seller of his magazines. when people went into the supermarket, they wanted to buy the magazines with donald trump on the cover and when they in fact tested which celebrities were the most popular, trump ranked among the top. each and...
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>> david pecker? >> yeah. >> i felt there were some partings of what he was saying were credible, but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> definitely sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> what was it he said or what was it about his demeanor, hope, that made you think he wanted to help donald trump? >> throughout his entire interview basically, he was talking a lot about, oh, yes, they were, we were referring to the boss, mr. trump. and lots of pro trump language throughout his entire argument. and social studies class, we learn a lot about bias and bias in the media and bias in all different sorts of stories. so it was very interesting to hear how someone actually in court was showing the same bias that we've seen in the media sometimes. >> testimony, also -- >> go ahead, owen. sorry. >> okay. his testimony also reflected how crucial this whole case michael cohen is and will be when he takes the stand in a few weeks. >> i have to ask you both very quickly, what
>> david pecker? >> yeah. >> i felt there were some partings of what he was saying were credible, but he was definitely more inclined to help the former president. >> definitely sounded pro trump throughout his entire thing. >> what was it he said or what was it about his demeanor, hope, that made you think he wanted to help donald trump? >> throughout his entire interview basically, he was talking a lot about, oh, yes, they were, we were referring to the...
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he watched david pecker walk into the courtroom, he watched david pecker in the witness box, that's what we're hearing from inside the courtroom today, very similarly. the other thing i noticed about trump yesterday is he kept looking at the jury. when they came in and out, which happens several times during any court session, he followed them very closely as they walked in and out of the jury box, looked at them in the jury box. not clear whether he's simply look for some sort of indication of how they're leaning or perhaps trying to intimidate a little bit, but had his eyes very focused on them in addition to pecker yesterday, i assume that will go on throughout the trial. >> david axelrod writes that trump is a man who is bred to believe the rules don't apply to him and presents himself as peerless and left to sit silently by edict of the court as a jury of his peers decides his fate. look, rachel maddow said this yesterday on our air, none of us are body language experts. if you believe that is something that can be sort of read with certainty, but anyone, anyone on trial for a crime
he watched david pecker walk into the courtroom, he watched david pecker in the witness box, that's what we're hearing from inside the courtroom today, very similarly. the other thing i noticed about trump yesterday is he kept looking at the jury. when they came in and out, which happens several times during any court session, he followed them very closely as they walked in and out of the jury box, looked at them in the jury box. not clear whether he's simply look for some sort of indication of...
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so phil, david pecker back on the stand right now. being questioned about michael cohen, as we said, after a major clash over donald trump's gag order. how is this all sitting with the trump campaign? how does this affect their ability to raise money? they're behind on the money raising, and to get him out on the trail? >> well, andrea, the campaign is in that courtroom for donald trump, and you know, one of the arguments that his defense attorneys made in court this morning is that he's not violating this gag order according to them when he comments on the trial on social media, but that's rather part of his campaign that when he makes comments about this case, about the judge, about jurors, et cetera, that's part of his campaign activity in the 2024 race. and so obviously, trump is going to be there in court for the next several weeks. that's where the campaign for him is taking place. and he seems to be leaning into this strategy of portraying himself as unfairly persecuted as a way to raise more money from his supporters and grow
so phil, david pecker back on the stand right now. being questioned about michael cohen, as we said, after a major clash over donald trump's gag order. how is this all sitting with the trump campaign? how does this affect their ability to raise money? they're behind on the money raising, and to get him out on the trail? >> well, andrea, the campaign is in that courtroom for donald trump, and you know, one of the arguments that his defense attorneys made in court this morning is that he's...
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>> reporter: this is the second day for david pecker on the stand. yesterday he was only able to testify for about 30 minutes. we are about five minutes into his testimony here today with the jury back in the jury box. i can tell you that the prosecution is currently going through the early meetings of donald trump and david pecker. of course, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," who is a crucial witness to the prosecution dating back to the meeting between michael cohen and donald trump and david pecker, when they concocted the catch and kill scheme. what the prosecution is doing in real time is asking david pecker when he first met donald trump. he's now telling the story of back in the 1980s at mar-a-lago when he met mr. trump, and he pointed to defendant trump in the courtroom, and notably he said their relationship became closer in the 2000s, naming donald trump's "the apprentice," when he was on air with the popular television show, the two struck up a mutually beneficial relationship, and it was quite clear according to david pecke
>> reporter: this is the second day for david pecker on the stand. yesterday he was only able to testify for about 30 minutes. we are about five minutes into his testimony here today with the jury back in the jury box. i can tell you that the prosecution is currently going through the early meetings of donald trump and david pecker. of course, the former publisher of "the national enquirer," who is a crucial witness to the prosecution dating back to the meeting between michael...
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david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people's star witness and not michael cohen. david pecker may ultimately be a better witness for a few different reasons. number one, he has some baggage, but he doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen. number two, he's going to lay the foundation of this pre-existing relationship and this catch and kill arrangement. and that's going to match up to a lot of documents that the state is going to introduce. number three, he was a friend of donald trump's. so his testimony may be more credible for that reason. he may be testifying about something we're not anticipating, and it might be about a direct conversation with donald trump, because, remember, that there were these entries in business records can be shown from the records with the state, with the people need to show is donald trump
david pecker will be back. he spoke for about 30 minutes or so in testimony yesterday after those opening statements. anything that stuck out to you and just how important is he to this case? >> david pecker may in fact be the people's star witness and not michael cohen. david pecker may ultimately be a better witness for a few different reasons. number one, he has some baggage, but he doesn't have the baggage of a michael cohen. number two, he's going to lay the foundation of this...
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they shifted from being a david to the goliath. also, incorrectly, students inflate the civil rights movement with what is going on in palestine and digressed, unfortunately, because an orthodox promoted that there are the positiveoppressors and oppr. israel is seen as ground zero for whiteness and how wealthy they are. what might sound paranoid, but i think we're manipulating youth, whose frame for the world is tiktok. 52 videos are pro-palestinian for every one served on israel. i think we're manipulated. americans are easier to convince. social media is sowing division and socialization. >> we're allowing the chinese to shape the debate. they're children. i'm glad the bill passed in the house. you know, scott, one final thing, then i promise we'll get to your book. i'll just say this, and then i'll go far up field in another direction. this argument that european columnists have somehow, that this is colonization in israel, no. israel was created three years after we discovered that european colonists gassed 6 million jews. so t
they shifted from being a david to the goliath. also, incorrectly, students inflate the civil rights movement with what is going on in palestine and digressed, unfortunately, because an orthodox promoted that there are the positiveoppressors and oppr. israel is seen as ground zero for whiteness and how wealthy they are. what might sound paranoid, but i think we're manipulating youth, whose frame for the world is tiktok. 52 videos are pro-palestinian for every one served on israel. i think we're...
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the prosecution then called its first witness, david pecker. a former chairman and ceo of american media incorporated, explained his publications had practiced, quote, checkbook journalism where they paid thousands of dollars for stories. the publications would also purchase stories to prevent them from being published by other outlets and then bury them. he also testified trump met with him after the 2016 election to thank him for being the campaign's, quote, eyes and ears, scooping up information that could prove harmful to trump and reporting it back to michael cohen. pecker is expected to resume his testimony later this morning. before the testimony resumes judge merchan will hold a hearing to decide whether he's in violation of a gag order. that order prohibits trum frump attacking witnesses, jurors and other people involved in the case. prosecutors say trump has violated the gag order ten times. they want him held in contemp and fined $1,000 for each violation. judge merchan's options range from a stern warning to a modest fine to a short
the prosecution then called its first witness, david pecker. a former chairman and ceo of american media incorporated, explained his publications had practiced, quote, checkbook journalism where they paid thousands of dollars for stories. the publications would also purchase stories to prevent them from being published by other outlets and then bury them. he also testified trump met with him after the 2016 election to thank him for being the campaign's, quote, eyes and ears, scooping up...
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answer, david pecker. being in the publishing industry for 40 years, i realized early in my career the only thing that was important was a cover of a magazine. so when the editors would prepare a cover we would have a meeting and they would present me what the concept was and cost was going be. question, prosecutor. and if the story involves for lack of a better way to say it a big story or a famous person. now, two salient points here about that testimony from david pecker. he's only on the stand for about two hours today. first, what he says counts as the normal amount of money for the checkbook journalism he says his company does. anything over $10,000, that would be unusual. that would be out of bounds. that would have to get personal approval from him as chairman, ceo from not just one of these publications but the entire company with dozens of publications. $10,000 was the ceiling. beyond that, it had to go personally through him. in this case prosecutors say they'll present evidence that ami was doi
answer, david pecker. being in the publishing industry for 40 years, i realized early in my career the only thing that was important was a cover of a magazine. so when the editors would prepare a cover we would have a meeting and they would present me what the concept was and cost was going be. question, prosecutor. and if the story involves for lack of a better way to say it a big story or a famous person. now, two salient points here about that testimony from david pecker. he's only on the...
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what did david do? he bought us weekly and turned it into a lifestyle magazine, a platform to showcase the trump family in the white house. talk how these two men know each other and have been essentially in business for decades. >> this is an ugly set of journalism. i should emphasize that set the way we do journalism. we don't buy stories to kill them or publish them. that's the way the national enquirer worked and how it worked for years. there were instances where the killed negative stories about arnold schwarzenegger when he was running for governor. they did it for tiger woods to get a good interview with tiger woods. they buried a story about him. it's been going on a long time and the world trump lived in for years. the new york tabloids. it was a long-term relationship. you can see that david says we will formalize this. doing it informally and now we will formalize it and i will do it to benefit your campaign because i want the access and power and the stories that i will get out of that. i t
what did david do? he bought us weekly and turned it into a lifestyle magazine, a platform to showcase the trump family in the white house. talk how these two men know each other and have been essentially in business for decades. >> this is an ugly set of journalism. i should emphasize that set the way we do journalism. we don't buy stories to kill them or publish them. that's the way the national enquirer worked and how it worked for years. there were instances where the killed negative...
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answer, david yes, i did. the first witness in the criminal trial of former president donald trump today was david peck or, the former ceo of american media inc., ami, the company that used to own the national inquirer. now two points here about that testimony from david he's only on the stand for half an hour today, but we got all this stuff from the prosecution's case. first of all there is what he said about what counts as a normal amount of money for the kind of checkbook journalism that he says his company does. anything over $10,000, that would be unusual and sort of out of bounds. that will have to get personal approval from him as the chairman, president, and ceo of not just one of these publications, but the entire company with dozens of publications. $10,000 was the ceiling. beyond that they would have to go personally through him. but in this case prosecutors say they will present evidence that ami was doing something in a whole other league when it came to what they were doing for trump. for exampl
answer, david yes, i did. the first witness in the criminal trial of former president donald trump today was david peck or, the former ceo of american media inc., ami, the company that used to own the national inquirer. now two points here about that testimony from david he's only on the stand for half an hour today, but we got all this stuff from the prosecution's case. first of all there is what he said about what counts as a normal amount of money for the kind of checkbook journalism that he...
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, they've been friends and allies for decades. >> david was the false witness, at trial you start with your worst witness and and with your strongest witness. i think it was very telling in the opening statement from the prosecution that they wanted to make this link directly to the election, you know the whole groundwork leading up to david was trump entered into this catch and kill scheme for the campaign, and it was for him to be the eyes and ears of the campaign from negative stories that could be coming down the pike and this is where it's going, he was being asked about how he operated and orchestrated the catch and kill scheme, over $10,000 that individual editors had to come and ask them if they could spend that kind of money on sources and trying to get stories, and he will narrate the entirety of the relationship between trump and him and the national enquirer that's what makes him such an important witness. >> the prosecution is hoping he will be that narrator? >> absolutely, that's the game of the prosecution, you start with him because he's the guy that's negotiating early
, they've been friends and allies for decades. >> david was the false witness, at trial you start with your worst witness and and with your strongest witness. i think it was very telling in the opening statement from the prosecution that they wanted to make this link directly to the election, you know the whole groundwork leading up to david was trump entered into this catch and kill scheme for the campaign, and it was for him to be the eyes and ears of the campaign from negative stories...
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we know they will say david didn't have a good memory or he forgot something or he is some piece that is missing . obviously with respect to michael cohen, they are going to say he's just a liar. you heard that today. but, there was so many what is called hard evidence, there was references, as adam pointed out, to phone calls, really critical phone calls on october 26th, when the mechanism that michael cohen used was created and there were phone calls with donald trump. there is this record where i sort of fell off my chair where allen weisselberg has written out exactly how the payment scheme worked in his own me handwriting on a piece of paper that allen weisselberg, the cfo, had asked michael cohen to bring and that was his guest chapter and verse and it was said you are going to see that. there are other things like that. and, i was waiting to hear, for instance, the tape recording where we heard about it. e but, you have to say something if you are a defense lawyer about that. donald trump on that tape is not citing what are you talking about? i'm not engaged in some payment sch
we know they will say david didn't have a good memory or he forgot something or he is some piece that is missing . obviously with respect to michael cohen, they are going to say he's just a liar. you heard that today. but, there was so many what is called hard evidence, there was references, as adam pointed out, to phone calls, really critical phone calls on october 26th, when the mechanism that michael cohen used was created and there were phone calls with donald trump. there is this record...
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answer, david pecker. being in the publishing industry for 40 years i realized early in my career that the only thing that was important is the cover of a magazine. so when the editors produce a story or prepare the cover, we would have a meeting and they would present the story, what the concept was, what the cost would be. question, prosecutor. if the story involved for lack of a better way to say it, a big story or a famous person, did you have the final say on whether or not to publish the story. answer, david pecker. yes, i did. the first witness in the criminal trial of former president donald trump today was david pecker, the former ceo of american media inc. ami, the company that used to own the national enquirer. two salient points here about that testimony from david pecker. he's only on the stand for like half an hour today, but we get all of this salient stuff for the prosecution's case. first of all, there's what he said about what counts as a normal amount of money for the kind of checkbook j
answer, david pecker. being in the publishing industry for 40 years i realized early in my career that the only thing that was important is the cover of a magazine. so when the editors produce a story or prepare the cover, we would have a meeting and they would present the story, what the concept was, what the cost would be. question, prosecutor. if the story involved for lack of a better way to say it, a big story or a famous person, did you have the final say on whether or not to publish the...
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david pecker is a narrator for this case. and he's laying out the scheme, the multiple times that they killed any bad evidence against donald trump, and that they promoted bad evidence against his opponents. so you have this, you know, like you're building a house and now you have the framework. then you get to michael cohen, and it's already been built up, so he sounds sensible and okay. and then you have the documents. and you can't rebut the documents. donald trump signed those checks. you have the tape recordings. donald trump said, oh, yeah, i know, let's just use cash. no, no, no. so i think the defense really has its work cut out for it. one of the senior people on the watergate case, one said, you know, there are some cases that no one can win. there are some cases where you have to pound the table with the facts because you have the facts. some where you have the law, you emphasize the law, and some where you don't have anything. and even clarence darryl couldn't win the case. so i don't think blanch is clarence daro
david pecker is a narrator for this case. and he's laying out the scheme, the multiple times that they killed any bad evidence against donald trump, and that they promoted bad evidence against his opponents. so you have this, you know, like you're building a house and now you have the framework. then you get to michael cohen, and it's already been built up, so he sounds sensible and okay. and then you have the documents. and you can't rebut the documents. donald trump signed those checks. you...
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david pecker. to vaughn's point about unspoken, unknown details, according to prosecutes today, it was trump who invited david pecker to come to this meeting at trump tower in 2015. they were joined by michael cohen there. when we've seen that meeting described and public filings, it comes across really differently. they say there was a meeting between cohen and pecker and a third member of the trump campaign. we know from our colleague tom winters reporting in 2018 -- >> do we have that? okay. we're, we went back and we found, it actually circulated on social media. tom winter is a pro's pro and probably the kind of reporter that lives in both worlds. that does talk to those kinds of sources that know where people move and with whom they move. let me show you that report about that meeting and who was in it. >> the first discussion of this so-called catch and kill come up in august 2015. so the "wall street journal" reported back in november and nbc news has now confirmed that in fact the other ca
david pecker. to vaughn's point about unspoken, unknown details, according to prosecutes today, it was trump who invited david pecker to come to this meeting at trump tower in 2015. they were joined by michael cohen there. when we've seen that meeting described and public filings, it comes across really differently. they say there was a meeting between cohen and pecker and a third member of the trump campaign. we know from our colleague tom winters reporting in 2018 -- >> do we have that?...
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maybe not so much michael cohen, but david becker. someone outside the system who doesn't have as much baggage as a michael cohen. their stories match up, along with the documents that match the stories. >> it's not unusual to have recordings, right, especially when you have a criminal case where things could have been budding. you know, but one of the witnesses recorded it on his own, and for his own reasons. that is different and unusual. >> that's different. but as danny said, it happens. particularly if you have a witness is afraid they may be caught one day, and he wants to say this is what happened. you notice in that tape, a good defense attorney can cross examine. cohen says i got this. their whole self-defense lakes by donald trump hands off. this was all michael cohen. that will play into the defense. >> catherine, danny, stay with me. we've got a lot more to learn from you both of you in this hour. up next, what more we could hear from david pecker and why the former "national enquirer" publisher was the first witness on th
maybe not so much michael cohen, but david becker. someone outside the system who doesn't have as much baggage as a michael cohen. their stories match up, along with the documents that match the stories. >> it's not unusual to have recordings, right, especially when you have a criminal case where things could have been budding. you know, but one of the witnesses recorded it on his own, and for his own reasons. that is different and unusual. >> that's different. but as danny said, it...
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where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the stage. he's the one, of course he was in charge of at the head of ami, in charge of the national enquirer. it sets the stage and just sort of provides for the jury. it started as soon as donald trump announced he was running for president. >> charles, does it matter that they were long time friends, associates, people who worked together for a long time? does that give him more credibility? >> i think it does. the prosecutors are going to tie that into their narrative around why you should believe him and why he's credible. i think when you're setting the stage, giving a jury a very clear picture around what's happening, you have to give to the jury a reason why you should be believing these witnesses and their testimony. so for the reasons you've just mentioned, i think that pecker is going to be a very import
where michael cohen and trump and david pecker had this agreement where david pecker would be the eyes and ears of the campaign and look out for those negative stories. give cohen a heads up and try to suppress it. so it's important he is the lead off witness because it sets the stage. he's the one, of course he was in charge of at the head of ami, in charge of the national enquirer. it sets the stage and just sort of provides for the jury. it started as soon as donald trump announced he was...
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david pecker is somebody they're emphasizing early on. we've reported he's expected to be the first witness called by the prosecution. why would they start with him? why would he be the opening witness? >> because this is the movie trailer. central to the plot of this movie is conspiracy, in layman's terms, the agreement. the judge has already said to prospective jurors, this is about an agreement to conceal. the agreement begins with david pecker in august of 2015. that's the meeting, and donald trump is in the meeting. you have that top of the pyramid that caroline described, that temidayo so accurately discussed in terms of funneling down. that is the base. the agreement that says i'm going to help you win, and i'm going to help you win by ensuring bad stuff does not get out there on you. remember, there's another thing that we heard when there was the evidentiary fight which is whether or not the prosecution was going to be able to introduce evidence that showed that david pecker and his team were also overemphasizing attacks on oppon
david pecker is somebody they're emphasizing early on. we've reported he's expected to be the first witness called by the prosecution. why would they start with him? why would he be the opening witness? >> because this is the movie trailer. central to the plot of this movie is conspiracy, in layman's terms, the agreement. the judge has already said to prospective jurors, this is about an agreement to conceal. the agreement begins with david pecker in august of 2015. that's the meeting,...
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one of the potential first witnesses expected to testify is david pecker who bought and buried damaging stories about trump. he's alleged to have worked with trump and his former attorney michael cohen to bury the stormy daniels story. other witnesses expected to testify include a who's who in donald trump's world. karen mcdougal also alleged a sexual relationship with trump. as trump left the courthouse on friday, he continued to insist he plans to testify in his own defense. >>> back here in washington after months of delay, house lawmakers have approved a $95 billion foreign aid package. in four back-to-back votes on saturday, lawmakers from both sides of the aisle overwhelmingly voted to approve the new funding package. a fourth bill would force tiktok's parent company based in china to sell the platform. president biden put out a statement saying members of both parties in the house voted to advance our national security interests and send a clear message about the powerful leadership on the world stage. it's expected to pass legislation and be sent to the president's desk. >>> spe
one of the potential first witnesses expected to testify is david pecker who bought and buried damaging stories about trump. he's alleged to have worked with trump and his former attorney michael cohen to bury the stormy daniels story. other witnesses expected to testify include a who's who in donald trump's world. karen mcdougal also alleged a sexual relationship with trump. as trump left the courthouse on friday, he continued to insist he plans to testify in his own defense. >>> back...
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now let me ask you real quickly, david, about caitlin clark. they spiked. how do you see clark's popularity translating now into the wnba? can we be sure these new fans will follow her when the competition also evolves there? >> i think so. but what we're looking at right now is whether or not this is a moment for women's basketball or whether we are seeing a movement towards women's basketball by masses of ladder. we're going to look back at 2024 as a moment and a movement where women's basketball busted through the slam dunks. the best ball being played right now is the other side of the ledger. >> no doubt about that with a lot of good story lines if everybody could kind of highlight them and bring them out to get people behind. there is some exciting competitions that will take place. i'll definitely be watching it as well. thank you to the both of you. and thank you at home for making time for us this weekend. make sure to catch ayman on msnbc every saturday, sunday 7:00 p.m. eastern. make sure to follow us on x and instagram. make sure to tune in tomo
now let me ask you real quickly, david, about caitlin clark. they spiked. how do you see clark's popularity translating now into the wnba? can we be sure these new fans will follow her when the competition also evolves there? >> i think so. but what we're looking at right now is whether or not this is a moment for women's basketball or whether we are seeing a movement towards women's basketball by masses of ladder. we're going to look back at 2024 as a moment and a movement where women's...
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let me come back, there's been reporting from the new york times that david packer is expected to be the first witness. lisa rubin predicted that and outlined why that would be the case. there's ongoing reporting and speculation about trump testifying. it seems like a disaster, as a nonlawyer, but explain to us what the prosecution may be thinking, if it's trump wanting to do it himself, what the impact could be if he decided to testify and they decided to have him do that. >> everyone should know the defendant, and a defendant like trump does not have to testify. the jury will be told that. that's true of any defendant. he has a right to testify regardless of what his lawyers are strongly advised and i am confident that they will throw their bodies in front of the witness stand, trying to get him not to take the stand and if you are the prosecutors, you are licking your chops, thinking fine, you want to take the stand? great. the amount of cross-examination material, as you know, from having watched him and covered him, is, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of prior in
let me come back, there's been reporting from the new york times that david packer is expected to be the first witness. lisa rubin predicted that and outlined why that would be the case. there's ongoing reporting and speculation about trump testifying. it seems like a disaster, as a nonlawyer, but explain to us what the prosecution may be thinking, if it's trump wanting to do it himself, what the impact could be if he decided to testify and they decided to have him do that. >> everyone...
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is taylor swift day and i am a huge swiftie but the theme of today if we had to put it in a song is david bowie and queen's "under pressure" you saw juror upon juror, or perspective juror upon juror crack and show their nervousness in participating in this proceeding. we had a young woman who said that her father was friends with a, let's call him a big nemesis of the former president and eventually when she was questioned about her ability to stay impartial and her feelings burst into tears, rather mild mannered person even though she was forceful in her words she say mild manner person in her own, and yet this perspective juror burst into tears and taken to a sidebar to explore why she was so nervous and anxious. she was excused. a perspective juror who said, i don't know why i keep getting these notices but i committed a crime and i served crime in another state and i am not eligible to serve and i am here and started to tear up about the conviction, again, taken privately to a sidebar with the parties where upon judge merchan inquired with the commissioner of courts and learned why sh
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let me ask you quickly, david, about caitlin clark, ticket prices, indiana fever, how do you see clark's popularity translating now in the wnba. can we make sure the new fans will follow her when the competition evolves there? >> i think so. what we are looking at right now is whether or not it is a moment for women's basketball or if we are seeing a movement towards women's basketball by matses of people. i think it is going to be the latter. we are going to look back on 2024 as a moment and a movement where women's basketball finally bust through and slam dunks the competition. the best ball being played right now is on the women's side of the legger >> no doubt about that. a lot of good story lines if everybody can just kind of highlight them and bring them out for people to get behind. exciting competitions that will be taking place in the wnba this year and i will be watching it as well. thank you to the both of you. thank you at home for making time for us. watch ayman every saturday and sunday at 7:00 p.m. eastern. and follow us. make sure to tune in tomorrow starting at 10:00 eas
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your republican opponent, former head fudge ceo david mccrumley has been taking heat. complicating that is the fact that he lives in another state. he lives in the state of connecticut. recent polling finds you leading him 45% to 41%. your thoughts on where the race is right now? >> i think it will be a close race. my opponent lives in connecticut. he has been misleading the people about that and he's an out-of-state candidate funded by out-of-state billionaires. i think he's the only one who has that set up just for him with more than $20 million in it already. so we need to compete against someone who has the backing. we need help. and i hope that people will go to bobcasey.com to help us. >> i'm out of time, but i want to have you back to talk about haiti and sudan. senator bob casey, thank you for being with us. >>> still to come, students take a ban on book bans, rising up against the challenges to free speech in their school libraries. how can support for these young activists happen? we'll talk about that after the break. blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. fo
your republican opponent, former head fudge ceo david mccrumley has been taking heat. complicating that is the fact that he lives in another state. he lives in the state of connecticut. recent polling finds you leading him 45% to 41%. your thoughts on where the race is right now? >> i think it will be a close race. my opponent lives in connecticut. he has been misleading the people about that and he's an out-of-state candidate funded by out-of-state billionaires. i think he's the only one...
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taylor swift day and i am a huge swiftie but the theme of today, if you had to put it to a song, is david going and queens, under pressure, because you saw juror upon juror, prospective juror upon juror really start to crack and show their anxiety and nervousness, participating in this proceeding. we had young one woman, who said that her father was friends with a, let's call him, a big nemesis of the former president and eventually when she was questioned about her ability to stay impartial and weigh the evidence, feelings about the former president, burst into tears on rather mild- mannered person even though she was being forceful in her words, she is a mild-mannered person and her own compartment and yet was taken to a sidebar to further explore why she was so nervous and anxious she was ultimately excused also know that we had a prospective juror today who said to some frustration like i don't know why i keep getting these notices but i have committed a climb in another jurisdiction. i served time in another state, i don't think i am even eligible to serve and yet i am here and start
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david becker has got the goods. if stormy daniels were to testify, you've also mentioned hope hicks before. do all of these folks have good reason to make trump nervous? >> david becker was a trump loyalist. part of not just this scheme but other hush money payment schemes. to the karen mcdougal case, the doorman trying to sell a story about trump fathering a child out of wedlock which was false. you can set the stage for this not being a one-off that trump of course knew because it was a pattern. i still think that it's my ctv here. she continues to be a loyalist to donald trump. she was in the room when it happened on air force one steaming has close while trump was still wearing them. she has no reason to lie. she hears things and to me it is surprising that she will testify but according to reports, she testified already before the grand jury and testify truthfully. it looks like she will be a key corroborating witness for michael:. >> could have gone all day without mentioning hope hicks steaming has close whil
david becker has got the goods. if stormy daniels were to testify, you've also mentioned hope hicks before. do all of these folks have good reason to make trump nervous? >> david becker was a trump loyalist. part of not just this scheme but other hush money payment schemes. to the karen mcdougal case, the doorman trying to sell a story about trump fathering a child out of wedlock which was false. you can set the stage for this not being a one-off that trump of course knew because it was a...
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. >> david yes. >> david that's who we are talking about. he will describe catch and kill which began in august of 2015 in a meeting with trump and michael cohen and was their effort to pay people who had dirt on donald trump for their stories and they assumed the stories would run in the national enquirer and the national enquirer would skill -- kill those stories on behalf of the then candidate, trump. at that meeting you will hear about tomorrow in all likelihood, and 2015, we are going to hear that, basically, trump wanted david to be his eyes and ears on any stories about him and . >> and not once but twice, by the way, he was also alleged to have done this with karen mcdougal, the playboy playmate. so, would he be a good choice? would david packer be a good choice to go first? >> i think that being able to tell the story chronologically, it is difficult when then you have to do with different witnesses and their counsel overlap. i think the fact that this stretches back into 2015 does potentially make him an interesting choice here. i
. >> david yes. >> david that's who we are talking about. he will describe catch and kill which began in august of 2015 in a meeting with trump and michael cohen and was their effort to pay people who had dirt on donald trump for their stories and they assumed the stories would run in the national enquirer and the national enquirer would skill -- kill those stories on behalf of the then candidate, trump. at that meeting you will hear about tomorrow in all likelihood, and 2015, we...
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david, is it difficult to prove this case? would a jury believed that cohen decided to dip into his home equity to give money to stormy daniels? >> i don't think it's difficult to prove this legally. and here's why. the rule for the prosecution's office is you don't bring a high profile case in that you expect to lose. he has shown this to others and they've assured him that he can legally approve this case. it's whether or not the jury gets distracted when they hear this evidence. they really need to play this straight. this is what you and i were talking about in the last segment about prior bad acts. you have two lawyers and an engineer on the jury. i don't know any trial lawyer who would voluntarily have a lawyer on the trial alone to. they are the rare exception in terms of jurors who will focus on evidence and arguments. therefore, you don't want to be too salacious in your opening statement. you want to play it straight and let them know he did it and we are going to prove it and you're the fax you will hear and leave i
david, is it difficult to prove this case? would a jury believed that cohen decided to dip into his home equity to give money to stormy daniels? >> i don't think it's difficult to prove this legally. and here's why. the rule for the prosecution's office is you don't bring a high profile case in that you expect to lose. he has shown this to others and they've assured him that he can legally approve this case. it's whether or not the jury gets distracted when they hear this evidence. they...
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and you think maybe even from david pekker himself? >> i would be surprised if he was not a witness and i agree with you that if there is a central witness, he will be a very important narrator. according to the charges in the statement of facts that were referenced, he is in the scheme from day one. the scheme is hideous according to the d.a. this is donald trump engaged in ground zero of fake news where he is working with the national enquirer not just to catch and kill but to kill bad stories about himself and to disseminate according to the d.a., false information about his adversaries with the complicity of a media outlet. and we may not think the national enquirer -- it is still a media outlet with a vast reach according to the d.a. was working with a political campaign. it may seem we are going to have that robbed and our faces to force us to think about what is going on when you have a political candidate being helped by a media outlet who should be passionate trying to be fair and balanced. and i think you will see the exact o
and you think maybe even from david pekker himself? >> i would be surprised if he was not a witness and i agree with you that if there is a central witness, he will be a very important narrator. according to the charges in the statement of facts that were referenced, he is in the scheme from day one. the scheme is hideous according to the d.a. this is donald trump engaged in ground zero of fake news where he is working with the national enquirer not just to catch and kill but to kill bad...
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but a putin came to the munich security conference in 2007 and a place david and i and ed had to show up and he railed against the parts of russia that he believed had been wrested from the country after the dissolution of the soviet union. seven years later, he of course annexed crimea. it took us a year to put sanctions together and only with the big invasion of ukraine have we really seen that take place in a big way, a big reaction. china's case is slightly different. but it was xi jinping where we get the intelligence wrong about what kind of leader he would be. and of course, what did he do? he came in and secretly gave a series of speeches. about building up china's nuclear force. did the repression on hong kong. now we are caught with a leader who we will be living with for another 10 years or so. things have eased up in the past year, or the past six months, i don't know anybody in the u.s. government who thinks that we aren't on a longer-term confrontation. we are focused on the middle east rightly so. but the risk is again getting distracted. >> david ignatius, take the nex
but a putin came to the munich security conference in 2007 and a place david and i and ed had to show up and he railed against the parts of russia that he believed had been wrested from the country after the dissolution of the soviet union. seven years later, he of course annexed crimea. it took us a year to put sanctions together and only with the big invasion of ukraine have we really seen that take place in a big way, a big reaction. china's case is slightly different. but it was xi jinping...
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they cleared lauren's boyfriend david and ex-boyfriend joe. no surprise to lawrence friends. >> i never thought it was david, i never thought it was joe. >> the eventually cleared the maintenance man as well. august 2, five weeks after lauren disappeared, stephen mcdaniel, the quiet law student graduate was charged with murder. he maintained his innocence, pled not guilty. stephen seemed harmless. note criminal record, the evidence against him was circumstantial. the da was not confident. >> i was worried unless we had more that this would be a case where everybody knew he did it but nobody could prove it. >> time to take a harder look at the evidence. >> coming up, investigators are about to discover a certain piece of deleted video. >> i knew we had him. >> do they? when dateline continues. ine co. of moderate-to-severe asthma s that's not for sudden breathing problems. dupixent can cause allergic reactions that can be severe. get help right away if you have rash, chest pain, worsening shortness of breath, tingling or numbness in your limbs.
they cleared lauren's boyfriend david and ex-boyfriend joe. no surprise to lawrence friends. >> i never thought it was david, i never thought it was joe. >> the eventually cleared the maintenance man as well. august 2, five weeks after lauren disappeared, stephen mcdaniel, the quiet law student graduate was charged with murder. he maintained his innocence, pled not guilty. stephen seemed harmless. note criminal record, the evidence against him was circumstantial. the da was not...
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david is a business reporter for cnbc. >> he made $100 million when it was really something to make $100 million. >> he knew mcafee cost most of that in the real estate bust. >> this is called snake valley for obvious reasons that i hope we do find about. >> it was 2009 and he was making a documentary. he found mcafee at his new adopted home in believes. above and charismatic than 64- year-old made a fascinating case study. >> my life turned around 180 degrees down here. i mention the freedom here. there are virtually no regulations on business. >> a lot have belize as a paradise like me because i can do anything i want. there are no laws. intellectual property, nobody cares. i can start anything. >> and, he did whenever he perceived an opportunity to make a buck. water taxis. but his pride and joy he told him was the creation of a special lab in which you plan to make new medicines from jungle plants. >> hopefully, production of some fairly unique pharmaceuticals. >> with a beach, the island and a jungle compound on the mainland near the town of car melita, john mcafee could afford to l
david is a business reporter for cnbc. >> he made $100 million when it was really something to make $100 million. >> he knew mcafee cost most of that in the real estate bust. >> this is called snake valley for obvious reasons that i hope we do find about. >> it was 2009 and he was making a documentary. he found mcafee at his new adopted home in believes. above and charismatic than 64- year-old made a fascinating case study. >> my life turned around 180 degrees down...
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>> david smith was a fellow inmate of nathan's at the jail. he said nathan told him he researched ways to kill denise on his laptop. >> he talked how he was planning to kill his wife? >> well, at first he told me he was thinking about poison, with some insulin or potassium or something. >> according to the end, nathan said he ran a lot of errands the day of the murder to create an alibi. >> he told me he presented some valentine's day gifts to his wife, and so everything would look fine. >> how important was david smith, the jailhouse snitch. >> david said nathan was worried the lady might have seen him while he was walking. nobody knows that except nathan. it's consistent with our evidence. >> the inmate also testified why nathan wanted denise out of his life. >> well, he said she was overbearing and he got to the point where he had wanted to move on with his life and met some manos and stuff like that. >> did he tell you the name of that someone else? >> some student named anna or something. >> it was what the inmate said about the timing of
>> david smith was a fellow inmate of nathan's at the jail. he said nathan told him he researched ways to kill denise on his laptop. >> he talked how he was planning to kill his wife? >> well, at first he told me he was thinking about poison, with some insulin or potassium or something. >> according to the end, nathan said he ran a lot of errands the day of the murder to create an alibi. >> he told me he presented some valentine's day gifts to his wife, and so...
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we are going to learn that donald trump and david went back years. it could be beyond the election in 2016. they had an agreement where david becker would do the catch and kill for stories with donald trump. stories that would never appear. the ones we have heard a lot about. but also that he was somehow involved in stories that involved marco rubio. ted cruz. ben carson. hillary clinton. i don't quite know where that list ends. but i think we will hear a lot more about that relationship. these guys have known each other for years. they have large estates in palm beach and go back a long time in terms of trading information that went right into the national inquirer. they had a very mutually beneficial relationship for years and i think the jury will hear a lot about that. >> why is that not a story of biased press? and it is instead a story that prosecutors said was effectively an illegal conspiracy? a criminal conspiracy to influence the election? how does money make it a different thing? >> you hear a lot about the national inquirer storying. davi
we are going to learn that donald trump and david went back years. it could be beyond the election in 2016. they had an agreement where david becker would do the catch and kill for stories with donald trump. stories that would never appear. the ones we have heard a lot about. but also that he was somehow involved in stories that involved marco rubio. ted cruz. ben carson. hillary clinton. i don't quite know where that list ends. but i think we will hear a lot more about that relationship. these...
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david, i'll start with you. some democrats comparing this moment with the israel aid debate to a moral position back in 2003 against the iraq war. what do you make of that, and the number of democrats who came out today to vote no on what once would've been almost an automatic yes vote in support of funding more money to israel? >> that's right. the no votes today are significant, ayman. look, i think it's clear that the policy of the united states is still overwhelmingly pro- israel, to ally with israel in their current war. but we cannot overlook that the domestic politics, particularly within the democratic party, have shifted from what we've seen over the past several decades, and you see joe biden realizing that and trying to pay attention to those concerns. we have seen this in vote at the bell xbox during the biden democratic primary race. we're now seeing it on the floor of the u.s. congress. i think the white house is doing the best they can to attend to these concerns without actually breaking that str
david, i'll start with you. some democrats comparing this moment with the israel aid debate to a moral position back in 2003 against the iraq war. what do you make of that, and the number of democrats who came out today to vote no on what once would've been almost an automatic yes vote in support of funding more money to israel? >> that's right. the no votes today are significant, ayman. look, i think it's clear that the policy of the united states is still overwhelmingly pro- israel, to...
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this is david's look of joy. and this is his john deere z530m mower. that delivers precision, speed, comfort, ♪♪ and a feeling we couldn't possibly put into words. ♪♪ you just have to get in the seat. i'm your overly competitive brother. and i'm ready for a rematch. game on. i've been practicing. what the cello? you want me to lower the hoop? foul! what? you going to tell on me again? foul yah? foul bro! here take a free shot go ahead knock yourself out. your about to get served....
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. $4 billion to reflenish the iron dome and david's sling, missile defense systems, another $1.2 billion for the ern beam defense system that countered short range rockets and mortars as well. $3.5 billion for the procowerment of the advanced weapons system and the inansment and development of critical munitions. $4.4 billion to replennish defense articles and services provided to israel, $2.4 billion for current military operations in the region in response to recent attacks. i'm going to ask all of you to stay with us as we wrap up one hour. we will start another one right now. will start another one righ now. >>> a very good day to you. it is top of the hour on the east coat. welcome to alex witt reports. we have ben following breaking news the last few minutes, all unfolding on capital held in a rare saturday session. the house has approved tens of billions in aid for ukraine. lawmakers waving ukraine's national flag on the house floor minutes ago. there are numerous votes happening today on critical foreign aid. the house has also passed more than $8 billion in aid to taiwan and the
. $4 billion to reflenish the iron dome and david's sling, missile defense systems, another $1.2 billion for the ern beam defense system that countered short range rockets and mortars as well. $3.5 billion for the procowerment of the advanced weapons system and the inansment and development of critical munitions. $4.4 billion to replennish defense articles and services provided to israel, $2.4 billion for current military operations in the region in response to recent attacks. i'm going to ask...
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. $4 billion to reflenish the iron dome and david's sling, missile defense systems, another $1.2 billion for the ern beam defense system that countered short range rockets and mortars as well. $3.5 billion for the procowerment of the advanced weapons system and the inansment and development of critical munitions. $4.4 billion to replennish defense articles and services provided to israel, $2.4 billion
. $4 billion to reflenish the iron dome and david's sling, missile defense systems, another $1.2 billion for the ern beam defense system that countered short range rockets and mortars as well. $3.5 billion for the procowerment of the advanced weapons system and the inansment and development of critical munitions. $4.4 billion to replennish defense articles and services provided to israel, $2.4 billion
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we have david on the show all the time. but the morning half. >> when someone comes on the show and they have a book, i'm the usually leaning forward. but i'm just like, this is too familiar. this is so familiar. unfortunately, you and david and i have had similar backgrounds growing up at the church. but all these people that were your friends are in your community or even closer than friends, and your church community, just abandoned you. >> the day you decided not to follow along and support a guy who said he never had the need to ask jesus for forgiveness. >> and the title of the book is "ghosted." because i have been a ghost writer and because of all these groups of people who i thought would support me but who turned their back on me quickly when i made the decision not to support trump. it was pretty shocking. >> walk us through, if you will, how tight you were in the conservative community. you are a ghost writer. constantly had clients calling you and asking you to help. and you didn't change your viewpoint. they c
we have david on the show all the time. but the morning half. >> when someone comes on the show and they have a book, i'm the usually leaning forward. but i'm just like, this is too familiar. this is so familiar. unfortunately, you and david and i have had similar backgrounds growing up at the church. but all these people that were your friends are in your community or even closer than friends, and your church community, just abandoned you. >> the day you decided not to follow along...
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i want to ask david your thoughts on the political ramifications of the case itself. i'm persuadeable in any direction. 35% what he did in the case was illegal. 31% said unethical but not illegal. did nothing wrong or don't nope. you also have unwillingness to vote on trump if he's consistent. i don't know if i believe people who say they're unwilling if they're convicted because i suspect some of those republicans are going to find a way to be willing. what do you think the over all political effects of the trial are right now? >> the number one effect that we've been talking about. you have donald trump showing people who he is. donald trump is now -- what does it mean as far as the legal jeopardy. i think the only untested question is what happens if donald trump loses his freedom in any of the four cases. that does not appear to be the case in the four cases before the election. it would not be before an appeal is in place or before move. i don't think this has no ramification whatsoever. persuadeable voteers are reminded why they don't like donald trump. >> there
i want to ask david your thoughts on the political ramifications of the case itself. i'm persuadeable in any direction. 35% what he did in the case was illegal. 31% said unethical but not illegal. did nothing wrong or don't nope. you also have unwillingness to vote on trump if he's consistent. i don't know if i believe people who say they're unwilling if they're convicted because i suspect some of those republicans are going to find a way to be willing. what do you think the over all political...
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my prediction is that first witness is david pecker because the very first event in this indictment, if you're going chronologically, is the 2015 meeting at trump tower between cohen, pecker, and a person our own tom winter reported in 2018 was none other than donald trump, putting trump in the room at the beginning of the scheme is critical, and not having michael cohen do it is even more critical. >> thank you, and i expect to see you. don't make a lot of plans for the next six weeks. thank you both very much. >>> coming up next, israel launches missile strikes into iran as fears grow of a widening conflict in the middle east. "the reidout" continues after this. voices of people with cidp: cidp disrupts. cidp derails. let's be honest... all: cidp sucks! voices of people with cidp: but living with cidp doesn't have to. when you sign up at shiningthroughcidp.com, you'll find inspiration in real patient stories, helpful tips, reliable information, and more. cidp can be tough. but finding hope just got a little easier. sign up at shiningthroughcidp.com. all: be heard. be hopeful. be yo
my prediction is that first witness is david pecker because the very first event in this indictment, if you're going chronologically, is the 2015 meeting at trump tower between cohen, pecker, and a person our own tom winter reported in 2018 was none other than donald trump, putting trump in the room at the beginning of the scheme is critical, and not having michael cohen do it is even more critical. >> thank you, and i expect to see you. don't make a lot of plans for the next six weeks....
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michael cohen did this or david pecker did this. i didn't do anything. and the prosecution is really needing to understand how this all links up together and donald trump doesn't have to be the one actually doing it to be part of the scheme. >> yeah. and you made the legal analogy to culpable when someone doesn't have their finger on the trigger, which brings us back to the eastern district, where then prosecutor wiseman dealt with a lot of mafia cases and the higher up the line you go, the less likely they were physically carrying out a battery or a violence or a murder. and yet you bring those cases nonetheless. sometimes the most important people are in that position. i'm also now wondering whether the national enquirer is in the faculty lounge. is that down there, keep an eye on it. no, that is the answer. and we want to lean further on your experience as we look at the defense side of the case. melissa, good to see you. thank you. by the end of the hour we'll look at how maga is melting down over trump's peril. >> every campaign stop is crucial. don
michael cohen did this or david pecker did this. i didn't do anything. and the prosecution is really needing to understand how this all links up together and donald trump doesn't have to be the one actually doing it to be part of the scheme. >> yeah. and you made the legal analogy to culpable when someone doesn't have their finger on the trigger, which brings us back to the eastern district, where then prosecutor wiseman dealt with a lot of mafia cases and the higher up the line you go,...
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you don't have a relationship with david pecker if you're not hiding something. >> you must look at david pecker because i think that he is a key to if you engaged in this, we're going to pay somebody to hide this story. it already shows the kinds of steps you would take to try and win, and even if it is in -- if not illegal, certainly unethical ways. you're going to actually engage in a deal as donald trump has done, with pecker to say somebody comes to something bad, buy the story and hide it. well, there's not much of a leap to go from there to saying i want to change and falsify some records. and i think that he can be a very damaging witness and damaging politically for trump when you've got a guy saying i did business with him, to bury things, and that can have some serious indications on what's going on in 2024. this is the kind of guy he is. but i agree with neil. i don't think donald trump would go on that stand if you had the court officers lift him out the chair and put him there because he doesn't want to ever have to answer direct questions. >> right. >> don't forget if they
you don't have a relationship with david pecker if you're not hiding something. >> you must look at david pecker because i think that he is a key to if you engaged in this, we're going to pay somebody to hide this story. it already shows the kinds of steps you would take to try and win, and even if it is in -- if not illegal, certainly unethical ways. you're going to actually engage in a deal as donald trump has done, with pecker to say somebody comes to something bad, buy the story and...
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senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace, and former arab negotiator, aaron david miller. we are hearing these strikes are being down played by both sides, really, but iran had been vowing retaliation for any strikes inside iran. where does that leave us? >> reporter: ana, it leaves us with the strong impression that neither side is looking for escalation. we heard from the iranian president, he is a hard liner, one of the iranian officials who said that any israeli attack of any size would be met with massive and immediate retaliation and yet during this speech, he made no mention at all of that israeli strike. here in israel, the official line is they are neither confirming nor denying israeli involvement in this attack. we did not hear from prime minister benjamin netanyahu in any significant way. and, ana, this appears to be a public messaging strategy that is designed to give the iranians space to allow them to choose not to retaliation without losing face. this is a kind of diplomatic off ramp, if you will. and so far, it appears to be working. we are not see
senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace, and former arab negotiator, aaron david miller. we are hearing these strikes are being down played by both sides, really, but iran had been vowing retaliation for any strikes inside iran. where does that leave us? >> reporter: ana, it leaves us with the strong impression that neither side is looking for escalation. we heard from the iranian president, he is a hard liner, one of the iranian officials who said that any israeli...