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arizona where the state senate might be about to repeal the civil war era abortion law. democrats have been trying to get the ban tossed and they could do it today. finally. after two republican senators suggested they would vote to overturn it. what changed their minds? could it be the outpouring of outrage across the state? an acknowledgment, perhaps, that voting to enshrine a law embedded in a code to prevent their parents from homicide if they happened to kill their children while correcting them. and detailed punishments for those who unlawfully cut out people's tongues might not be political savvy to do to enshrine that law. after all, every single legislator in the arizona state house is up for reelection this november. the vote is about to happen across the country also happening today, florida, the

six-week prohibition went into effect today, leaving millions across the southeast, few if any options to seek abortion care even in an emergency. >> we should not be allowing abortions and we certainly shouldn't be providing abortion for other states in the south. >> according to "the washington post," women who were trying to get an abortion yesterday were turned away because another florida law requires an ultrasound, at least 24 hours before the procedure. in other words, they were too late. quote, i can help you find an appointment in another state. a doctor told a woman who was seeking an abortion named kristen. kristen cried and said i can't afford three kids, but i also can't afford to go out of state. joining us now, nbc news

correspondent marissa parra, who is in jacksonville, florida. nbc news correspondent dana griffin, who's in phoenix, arizona, for us, along with nbc news washington correspondent yamiche alcindor, who's in charlottesville, virginia. dana, the vote in arizona is about to happen. the speech is being given on the floor. a moment ago, i described what the civil war era ban, went it went into effect. the idea that sometimes parents killed their kids when they were punishing them, and that was sometimes exempted. the age of sexual consent was 10 years old for a girl. and that sometimes people cut out other people's tongues, this is what was happening when that law was officially put into place in 1864. this is what is also embedded in that code. is that partially why we're now seeing at least a couple more republicans potentially vote

alongside the democrats to repeal this law. >> reporter: i think a lot of it has to do with what is happening in november. a lot of the republicans that are siding with democrats are in swing districts, and that's part of the politics here. i will say we were just inside in the senate chambers. it is standing room only, you have so many people in that third floor gallery looking down. they've technically voted 16 yays, 14 nays but they have to do a third reading and during that, we saw some senators not vote, and because of that, they get to stand up and explain it. we saw what appeared to be an attempt add a filibuster. one of the senators talking for 20 minutes without stopping. several people yelling for her to vote, they were kicked out. we had others stand up, turn their backs. so this is the part of the

process that democrats told me that they were a little cautiously optimistic about because there could be stall tactics, which we witnessed happened so far. that senator has taken a seat. we have others that have now spoken. this has likely passed. even if the repeal passes today and the governor signs it, there's still going to be a period where it will take 90 days for this to even be in effect after the legislative session. and last year, that didn't happen until july 31st. so this could stretch on, and there's likely going to be a period when this 1864 law is still in effect if the repeal goes through. we got to get through that process first. >> how boisterous has electorate been regarding this law. we're talking about swing district lawmakers who may be changing their vote because of the issue. i'll remind everyone again that everybody, every single lawmaker in the arizona state house, every last one of them is up for

reelection in november. >> yeah, i mean, it's key. i spoke to one senator, and i asked that question, you know, are the republicans that are flipping to the side to vote with democrats, are they doing this because they genuinely want to represent their constituents who overwhelmingly have said that they support at least some form of abortion in the state. or is this because they're trying to keep their seats, and she says it's a little bit of both. and i think that in order to serve the people, you've got to have the position. so a lot of this is about power. we've seen just a lot of back and forth. we know kari lake has flipped on this particular issue. so you're going to see that all the way up through november, and it's been pretty boisterous, even just inside today, a lot of opinions floating around here. you've got protesters outside, people who were praying, who were singing, who want their voices to be heard, a very

contentious issue here. at this hour, it looks like this measure will pass if these delays, these stalls don't continue. >> we're going to watch it as the vote is ongoing. kari lake is running for senate. she flipped to be against the 1864 law. then she seemed to flop back and be in support of the 1864 law. we'll see how she reacts to this. i want to go to florida, because this six-week abortion ban has now gone into effect in the state of florida. i just told you about a "washington post" article detailing what it was like at what abortion clinic yesterday when women thought they were getting in under, you know, right before the deadline, and they were turned away because they hadn't had a 24-hour ultrasound. what's the reaction been today. >> well, katy, i can tell you, we heard the same thing. for those who were not aware. the way the law deems it in florida, you need to have a

two-visit minimum. you have your consultation and then a minimum waiting period, and only then at soonest could you get the medication or speaker. technically speaking, we had heard that patients were starting to get turned away yesterday, even though it was a full day before the ban went into effect. we talked about, and we have been reporting on the scramble, the rush to squeeze in all of the appointments and patients that they possibly could. yesterday they were still able to do those procedures with women that you consulted with on monday. and even if those women were beyond six weeks, they were still able to get some of those procedures yesterday, katy, but today officially begins the day where they're both turning away patients and not able to do any of those procedures. and so it is met with heartbreak and frustration. one abortion clinic down the road telling me that they have turned several patients away who didn't even know they were beyond six weeks. they were just days away from being over six weeks, katy. so when we talk about what happens next, we know that in terms of where they are recommending people go, it's a

case by case situation of course. for the most part, we're seeing those recommendations, north carolina or virginia, north carolina has a steep waiting period, so we are seeing a combination of the two depends on the situation. >> florida was the last state where women could travel to easily, drive to, to get an abortion. the surrounding states had banned abortion at various time periods. now without florida allowing abortion, it means you have to travel all the way up to virginia, and that's where we find yamiche alcindor. yamiche, tell me about what abortion clinics are doing in preparation of women who could be traveling to try to get the procedure. >> on what is really a consequential day for abortion policy in this country, abortion clinics like this one at the whole health -- whole women's

health clinic in charlottesville. they are beefing up their hours. recruiting health care workers to perform abortion treatments and they have extended the number of weeks to be pregnant to get an abortion. at first it was 16 weeks, they extended that to 18 weeks. this is a location that before dobbs and roe were overturned, they have seen very few patients from out of state. now this year, 25% of patients have been patients from out of state. they're thinking they're going to get more of those patients. they are getting ready for that. i talked to the ceo of this abortion clinic network, and she told me that she feels for what's going on in florida because she had to close clinics in texas. take a listen to what she said about florida. >> every one of us who provides abortion has had to look someone in the eye and say i can't help you today. i could have helped you five minutes ago. i could have helped you yesterday, and now you have to go elsewhere and be denied that care. and when you're put in that

position where there's that one real human in front of you whose life is greatly impacted, it's not abstracted, it's unforgettable denying somebody care, just because of, you know, politics. >> that ceo tells me she's looking to open more abortion clinics, particularly in southern virginia because she understands there are going to be a lot of women who are going to florida, of course if you look at the state of virginia and you look at a map of the united states, you see states like alabama, mississippi, like texas, all of them, they expect now to be coming to virginia. i want to show you a bit of what i'm seeing here in this virginia clinic. to show people what's going on here, you have seen these chairs. it's called a recovery room. it's where women sit, to come and recover, and you see there are blankets, chairs that look spa like. you see journals, where they're asked to write a message. it can be anonymously to other

women who are going through the same thing. people wanted this room to be calm, and they wanted once you leave the procedure room to come here because people that come from out of state, they say, are nervous, they're anxious, overwhelmed. sometimes they're driving 10, 12 to get to the abortion clinic, and they want them to feel relieved, welcome to also make everything a little bit easier for the women that come here. really in some ways, the staff here is feeling like they want to make sure that women feel empowered, even as we see abortion restrictions go in across the country. i have been here for the last two days talking to people. there's a lot of anxiety and a lot of resilience as women continue to get the care in virginia. >> yamiche alcindor, thank you very much. and coming up next, fireworks, mace, what happened to protesters at ucla and what columbia university just announced about final exams. plus, former president donald trump is back on the campaign

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university officials said they were left with no choice but to call in the nypd last night, using a bear cat, officers in riot gear climbed into hamilton hall through a second floor window, arresting the protesters who barricaded themselves inside. columbia's president said there were students and outsiders in that building. police will remain on campus until mid may to make sure everything remains calm. with protests happening outside of the gates, all classes, office hours and final exams will be online. classes have also been canceled across the country and at ucla where protesters are trying to reestablish themselves after a lot of violence overnight on royce quad. the middle of the ucla campus. between the pro palestinian encampment and counter protesters who at one point were throwing fireworks, spraying

chemicals, and beating each other up. joining us at the ucla campus, nbc news correspondent steve patterson and at columbia university, antonia hylton. >> pretty wild images out of ucla last night. this is the one place where the counter protests have been active, vocal on trying to push back against the pro palestinian encampment. >> reporter: it's been here about a week or so now, finally we're able to see the people here. the protesters, sort of restore this. you can see them sort of picking up the scraps because just a few hours ago, when we arrived on scene, this place looked like a war zone, looked like a tornado had hit. there were so many materials on

the ground. and a lot of those were used as weapons, including as you mentioned, the fireworks and pepper spray that was allegedly used in the melee that went on, according to students and protesters went on for hours. in fact, we spoke to some students about watching this and the disbelief about the amount of fighting and violence. here's what one told me, listen to this. >> a group of guys coming in, and they started tearing down, like, people started cussing each other. things got heated. it really got violent, i would say for a fact. i've never seen this tension at all. it really got ugly. >> reporter: there were

different stripes and shades, to make people feel relatively safe. the one thing i will say, there may be some discrepancy, and debate about when police departments, chp, lapd got here, when were they called because some students say that it took literal hours of that violence to continue and continue and continue before police response was on scene, and then when they were on scene, when did they actually intervene and break up the protesters and counter protesters before people got hurt. there is some debate about it, and i can tell you a lot of students say it was way, way too late as now we're hearing some state officials are starting to look into this. katy. >> steve, thank you. let's talk about columbia. it was hectic and crazy there. the nypd coming in with a bear cat, climbing through a second story window at hamilton hall to get those barricaded inside outside of that building. i found it interestings

university president says. >> reporter: it was outside actors that led the protests, the decision to go into hamilton hall. students pushed back against the characterization. they say the majority were classmates, at the same time, it wasn't the normal groups that had constructed the encampment initially that made that decision. who actually led this action, and made the decision to barricade the building this way is very much an open question. we're still waiting on the identities of the students arrested at hamilton hall. the campus, the feeling when you talk to staff and students is that people are incredibly unsettled. take a listen to one faculty member, joseph slaughter.

>> reporter: i was standing here last night almost behind you, watching the vehicle pull up to hamilton hall. it was devastating. faculty near me, students near me were crying in despair over the fact that the administration has escalated to the point where they're bringing in an assault team to shut down student protests. >> reporter: the plan for the administration is to have the nypd on campus until may 17th, two days after graduation. they very much want the ceremony and the celebrations to go forward as planned. business as usual. when i talked to people on all sides of the debate, they feel there's no way it can go back to business as usual. jewish students feel like the administration left them in the cold for weeks or months in many cases. they didn't do enough to keep them safe. pro palestinian students feel like they were not heard. negotiations fell apart because they didn't trust the administration was listening to

them, and the faculty feel that the second incident now with more than 100 students arrested, for them that has been a final straw. katy. >> thank you. joining us now, nbc news senior law enforcement, cedric alexander, a former member of president obama's task force on 21st century policing. the police are in a tough spot here because the universities have called them in to try to help get things under control. the university is in a tough spot. students want to be able to protest. how do you, if you are a law enforcement officer, how do you approach these situations. >> a good example is doing exactly what we saw the nypd do last night. they had to work co-jointly with the leadership there at columbia university. they just could not go up on that campus without being requested to do so in writing and they'd take place. when they were requested to do so. what you were were elements of

law enforcement who were prepared. they were thoughtful, they were methodical in their approach. they had every available technological asset, drones, cameras to their advantage to approach and go inside the building and do everything they can to make those who had occupied that building safe, and get them out of there safely in custody, and at the same time they're able to get inside and be safe as well. yes, policing is a very tough situation, even talking to your reporter at ucla, where there were complaints that officers did not show up on time. it is very hard and difficult in these types of situations where you have these types of mass demonstrations to coordinate a number of police departments from around any region, any part of the country. you have to get them together. you have to plan when they do respond, they are responding in

a way that's professional. they do not over abuse their authority. if they have to arrest, they will do so, and they will use proportional amount of force that is necessary. i think it's important that we step back for a moment. and remember what we're asking law enforcement to do. we're asking them to do a lot in a very tough situation, and they have showed a great deal of professionalism and training, which for years we have been asking for in our community. we are seeing that being demonstrated. so i think we need to lean up a little bit off them. provide them with the support that they need so that they can carry out their duties across the country on these college campuses issue so every one is safe. but to criticize them at a time like this and it's not helpful to anyone. we're seeing them do a really really good job.

nypd did a stellar job last night, and they have done everything that they were supposed to do, and we really have to applaud them and the rest of these agencies across the country. to come on to these college campuses to do the work they do. >> cedric alexander, thank you very much. you can see images last night right there from the nypd inside hamilton hall that nbc news obtained. thank you very much. coming up next, what's donald trump telling supporters on his day off from the courtroom, and what are they saying about him? some surprising answers. plus, is history set to repeat itself? 1968, meet 2024. 4. nothing dims my light like a migraine. with nurtec odt, i found relief. the only migraine medication that helps treat and prevent, all in one. to those with migraine, i see you. for the acute treatment of migraine with or without aura and the preventive treatment of episodic migraine in adults. don't take if allergic to nurtec odt. allergic reactions can occur, even days after using.

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a scheduled break in the new york hush money trial means former president donald trump will be free to be right where he says he wants to be on a stage at a campaign rally. joining us now, nbc news correspondent vaughn hillyard. it's waukesha, right, i don't know what i'm doing. vaughn, so donald trump is at a rally. what are people saying about these trials? >> number one, he's currently speaking, and he's been speaking for about an hour, and perhaps surprisingly he hasn't mentioned the trial once at this point in time. is this an effect of the gag order and the potential violations? i'm not sure.

but what we do know is the fact is that he's got at least more of this speech, and he's got one more event in michigan. we've got sound that our friend shaquille brewster got. take a listen. >> definitely not enough to, you know, my dad will talk about it, but i kind of tune it out unfortunately, which i probably shouldn't. >> i guess i don't want somebody that has been through a trial for criminal offenses to be my president of the united states. >> i mean, it just looks like a roadblock. i assume if he were to get elected, he could do away with it. it's not too glaring that it would stop me from voting for him. >> americans have lived through four indictments, a criminal trial, and for donald trump, if he is able to get through this trial, let's say even if he's found guilty or there's a hung jury, there's going to be five months until the general election here.

that is plenty of time, and the reality is sinking in that we're unlikely to have another criminal trial. for him, not even bringing attention to it on the campaign stage today is an example, this could be a realization that, hey, if you make it through this, you've still got plenty of time to move the message away. >> if he did have a criminal trial, and put him in jail, it doesn't mean he can't run for office, can't still run to be president, can't still win, and then we're in a moment where i don't know how a president who's in jail governs, i'm not sure how that constitution will meet that out. it's never been tested before. ultimately this was going to be an issue that needed to be decided at the ballot box. we need to remind people. >> clearly from this week alone, there are other variables at play, other issues that are going to hit at the core of each independent voters voting decisions, right? >> i found nbc news polling that we did the other day interesting. there was a number of divides in it, but one of them that stood

out was the divide between younger women and younger men, breaking toward democrats, and younger men breaking toward republicans. we saw it in the sound that shaq gathered. >> we've had these conversations with the young generation, if we may. dating back a year ago, i think you and i were having this conversation, and so many young men grew up as him being the god father of this republican party, right? the certain person that they would idolize, parents or grandparents did, and there's a certain level of macho man that donald trump emits, and there are young people that look at him, as what it means to be a leader. look at what it means to be the face of a redefined republican party. and for them, his behavior is not out of the ordinary, and for them, they see this guy as somebody they have heard on college campuses themselves. they have been a part of the conversation, a dialect that makes fun of and repudiates,

right, sort of the causes on their campuses. >> donald trump seems like normal politics for a lot of young people because it's all they have known. if you're 21 and voting, donald trump came on to the political scene in earnest when you were eleven years old. he's been around for ten years now, for nearly ten years. nine years in terms of politicking and campaigning. but the divide, again, i mean, it's young men who are breaking more towards him and republicans, and young women who are looking and saying, i don't want to have anything to do with this. an interesting divide that we could see may out in november. vaughn hillyard, thank you very much. we will see you back at court tomorrow. in 1968, weeks before graduation, students at columbia university decided to take over hamilton hall. furious over america's involvement in the vietnam war and the school's plans to build a segregated gym in nearby morningside park. in response, the college called in the nypd. here was the front page of columbia student newspaper, what had happened.

the university calls in a thousand police to end demonstrations. nearly 700 are arrested and 100 injured. violent situation follows failure of negotiations. that's from the columbia spectator. today, also from the columbia spectator, the same newspaper, nypd confirms arrests of 119 individuals following sweep of occupied hamilton hall in gaza, solidarity encampment. the question is what comes of it, and how much of this is actually a parallel to 1968. joining us now, michael steele, cohost of "the weekend", and former rnc chairman, david frum, senior editor at "the atlantic," you're the former chair, in case that read didn't come off as clear as i wanted it to. david, you said this is not 1968 again. there's a difference. the protests on college campuses back then and the protests at the convention back then are not

going to be mirrored today, why? >> a lot of the protesters are retaining a folk memory of the history of 1968. while they're trying to relive the history, the police have learned from the history. in 1968, security at the democratic convention was done by the chicago police force, which was not sufficiently numerous. not well trained, not professional. very emotional, full of political drive. since the 1990s, the political conventions have been overseen by the secret service, national security special events. the secret service, though it doesn't operationally do the security, it can call on all kinds of resources from the city, from the state, and from across the country, from the national guard, the department of defense, from the coast guard. it is going to be very difficult to breach a perimeter. i was at the republican convention in 2004. 1,800 people were arrested. they weren't able to disrupt at all because the perimeters were

strong, and police have clear rules about what is legal and what is not. if you want to disrupt a convention, you're going to have a lot of bodies. they don't have that commitment and those numbers. >> what about the images that we're seeing out of the campuses, and the images we could see out of the convention? i mean, politically speaking, the republicans are already trying to use them to their advantage, saying the democrats are lawless, look what's happening at the democratic ranks, they're allowing anti-semitism. do you see that as being a problem for democrats, a benefit for republicans? or is this a lot of noise without a lot of consequence? >> it could be a problem if it's not handled right. democrats, president biden need to think very hard about why these events are potentially politically damaging. no one out there thinks of president biden himself has sympathy for flag burning or violence or disorder. they have two questions. are the republicans too beholden to the rich to defend the ordinary person, and are democrats too weak and beholden

to the forces of lawlessness to stand up for the ordinary person. it's important that any president, any leader, but especially democrat shows strength in the face of disorder. we are seeing some of that strength now with the arrests. those are good for the people who enforce the order, and weakness and temperizing and uncertainty, those are what harm office holders and democratic office holders. >> it's not just protesters. there are a lot of voters out there, michael, who sympathize with the palestinians and are horrified by what's happening in gaza, and are deeply upset at the biden administration, and the american government for supporting israel in the war, and we saw that with the votes for nobody, essentially, in michigan and wisconsin, other states where there's a number of people -- who want to make sure that president biden knows they don't support what's going on. do you see that as an issue in november?

>> i see that as you aptly put it as a notice to the president that i'm concerned. so i'm going to go into the ballot box during this primary, and i'm going to vote for other. i'm going to vote for nobody. to send the message that i need you to pay attention to this because i'm concerned. very much to david's point, on both the points he made. it is important to note that this is not 1968. the american people's attitude has changed around social engagement, political engagement, and certainly this type of engagement, protest engagement than we saw 50 years ago, 60 years ago. it's just not the same. and so it lands differently. i talked to a number of people over the last few weeks about how this is playing out for them. and their attitude is like, you know, we know what the issue was, why is everybody screaming. the administration is either trying to do something or the

administration isn't going to do something, and their attitude, katy, was like i'll think about this in november. very much to david's second point, the administration needs to be aware of why people feel this way. and then begin to fill in for them, any gaps of information they may have, for example, what the secretary of state is doing currently in the middle east. a lot of people don't know he's there. why? because they're watching trash cans burn and people throwing things at each other. that's drama. but the work of the administration is going on, and narratively they've got to convey that. >> the secretary of state is in tel aviv, trying to convince the israeli government to give him a concrete plan for what they are going to do in rafah, and how they're going to protect civilians. he's trying to convince hamas, through intermediaries, to take the deal that is on the table saying israel made a lot of concessions, it's a good hostage

for an extended cease fire deal. if they don't take it, it's hamas's fault that the violence will continue. let me ask you about a little bit of breaking news we have out of arizona. the arizona senate has now passed the repeal of the 1864 civil war era abortion ban, which means it's going to go to the governor's desk. she is expected to sign it. the consequence of this for november, what do you believe it to be, michael? >> the consequence is too little, too late for republicans because there's so many cats out of that abortion bag, they can't corral them all. this is symbolic in some respects for a lot of women out there who say to themselves, why did you think you could impose this on us in the first place. secondly, this law will be in effect unless there's some other legislative measure taken for the next 90 days until possibly up to july, unless there's a catch all provision in the legislation that sunsets that

law the day of signing or within the week of signing. the other thing is, it was a forced error. in other words, the republicans were forced in to this position, and so it becomes a real problem for the pro life side of the republican equation looking at, as i have just seen before coming on here, some pro-life comments in my twitter feed about how, you know, two republicans have now flipped to give democrats the ability to kill babies. >> again, the howl code where this abortion ban was embedded back in 1986 also said the age of sexual consent for a girl was 10 years old. michael steele, david frum, that's what the thinking was back then. gentlemen, thank you very much. coming up next, what a senate and house democrat are trying to do to big oil in the style of the january 6th committee. plus, mike johnson's days as

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punch bowl news co-founder jake sherman. what does she think the constituents are going to say to them to convince them to join her to get rid of speaker mike johnson? >> reporter: i think she just wants this story to last another week to be honest with you. but she's hoping, what she's hoping, that people go home and they hear that democrats have endorsed the republican speaker of the house, and you, congressman x, will vote to vote with the democrats to keep him in his seat. now i don't know that that is going to happen. i think people hear what they want when they go home to their district. and i think to be honest with you, that right now mtg's resolution is not enjoying a lot of support. we reported this afternoon that the leadership believes fewer than five republicans would support not tabling, so it is a procedural vote, the resolution to get rid of johnson.

so i think she overestimates her pull right now in the house republican -- >> she has a lot of pull with the democrats to step in. why are the democrats going to do so? what is hakeem jeffries said about the democratic vote if there is a motion to vacate. >> reporter: so there is a lot of layers here. during the ukraine debate, he said if johnson does the right thing, which is fund ukraine and put that national security supplemental on the floor, woe be there to protect and democrats would be there to protect mike johnson. the reality is not all democrats are on board with that. there was a lot of griping at house democratic caucus meeting a couple of days ago, yesterday, i guess it was, how they're not getting anything for this. they're just protecting him to protect him and i think a lot of people are uncomfortable with that. not all democrats would be forced to protech him but a good chunk will be willing to protect him. and to be honest, they don't want the house shut down for

three or four weeks, it is not great for the institution. i would argue if i were a democrat, it is add van tainous to have the republican conference in complete chaos at all times of the day. and i think that that is what a lot of democrats think as well. >> what about mtg and this push from the rnc to get republican lawmakers in line to show party unity? where does that stand? >> she doesn't care. mtg is on an island on to herself so people misunderstood her. they think they'll kowtow to trump and who wants mike johnson as speaker, first of all i don't think a ton if mike johnson is speaker, number one, and number two, i think mtg's feelings about mike johnson and about ukraine supercede what trump has to say. and i think, listen, i think for trump, he doesn't want the republican party on capitol hill a complete mess as he's running

for president. he's probably finding it distracting. and i think he said and what the chairman of the rnc said behind closed doors just a couple of days ago at house republican conference meeting was, we don't want trump to win the presidency and us to lose the house, that doesn't do us any good. now that is projecting, but that is what he thinks. >> jake sherman on capitol hill. good to have you. thanks as always. and that is going to do it for me today. "deadline: white house" starts right now. ♪♪ hi, everyone. 4:00 in new york. team trump bracing for what is next after the ex-president's election interference scheme is blown wide open but a series of bombshell texts and emails and eyewitness testimony from one of the lawyers involved in practically every last step of the plot to suppress negative stories about donald trump