two quick things before i go. i had so much fun the other day with joy reid at the historic apollo theater in harlem. we were talking about her new book. we filmed that. so this saturday, may 4th you can see joy reid and rachel maddow live at the apollo on msnbc 9:00 p.m. eastern this saturday night. very excited about that. it's going to stream on peacock as well. also, if you do want to see me live this weekend there are a few tickets left for an event i'm doing for my book "prequel" this saturday night in kingston, new york. all the tickets online msnbc.com/prequel. a few tickets left for saturday may 4th. "way too early" with jonathan lemire is up next. protests on the campus of columbia university escalate overnight now with the

occupation of a building there. we'll have the latest on that situation and the growing demonstrations on campuses across the country. that comes as there's some optimism that a cease-fire in gaza and the release of israeli hostages could soon be reached. we'llbri you those developments out of the middle east. and also ahead a preview what we can expect in court today when donald trump's hush money trial resumes in manhattan. good morning and welcome to "way too early" on this tuesday, april 30th. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for starting your day with us. and we'll begin this morning with the growing unrest at columbia university. overnight pro-palestinian student protesters occupied a campus building. it's hamilton hall, the same

building students took over back in the 1960s. that building just a few hundred feet away from the guzza encampment site. it came just hours after the university began sus spending students who refused to leave that encampment. the tents have been up for nearly two weeks, and the university wants to clear the area before graduation scheduled for may 15th. the protesters held a press conference yesterday afternoon saying the university has not made significant concessions to their main demands. the group wants columbia to divest from companies with links to the israeli occupation of gaza. the students also claim columbia has stopped negotiations. as a result, they say they will, quote, not be moved unless by force. as we keep an eye on the situation there uptown here in manhattan, protests are also escalating at other college campuses. the university of texas protesters clashed with police

resulting in dozens of arrests. video shows officers in riot gear dragging and carrying out demonstrators. the university says at least 40 people were taken into custody yesterday for trespassing and disorderly conduct. many of those people were not affiliated with the school. that's a phenomenon happening at columbia as well. they're not all students. meanwhile at the university of utah police were called to disperse a crowd of protesters there. the university says 17 people were arrested last night, and one officer was injured. a hatchet was also confiscated. the number of arrests at campuses nationwide is now approaching about 1,000 people. we will have more on this developing story throughout the morning here on msnbc. but now we turn to another major headline tonight. in just hours day 9 of donald trump's hush money criminal trial will resume in a new york city courtroom.

today banker gary farrow is set to return to the witness stand for more questioning, specifically about his handling of michael cohen's account at the time the alleged hush money payment was paid to stormy daniels back in 2016. that payment was part of an agreement to keep daniels from going public about an alleged affair with trump. trump has repeatedly denied any sexual encounter with the adult film actress. after the hush money payment became public, daniel's lawyer at the time, michael avenatti, provided nbc news with an e-mail of an assistant to farrow which confirmed the transfer. cohen had used his trump organization e-mail address in the communication that said at the time company funds were not used. also this week in the manhattan courtroom judge juan merchan will hold a second hearing on whether trump violated his gag

order. that hearing is set for thursday. meanwhile, in another legal development lawyers for president joe biden's youngest son, hunter biden, say they're planning to sue fox news independently they say over unfounded claims made about him on their air. in a letter sent to the network last week, which has since been obtained by nbc news, biden's attorneys notified fox of the impending lawsuit. they write it arises for the network's, quote, subsequent actions to defame mr. biden among other things. the letter focuses heavily on a six-part special that aired on fox's streaming service in 2021. in it the network presented a mock trial for what it may look like if biden were charged with being a foreign agent or bribery. mind you, he's never been charged with either of those crimes. biden is also planning to sue

over fox's decision to show nude photos of him on-air, which he says were stolen. fox has not responded to a request for comment. joining us now to help us understand these legal developments, state attorney from palm beach county, florida, dave aronberg. let's start with hunter biden before we turn to the trump trial. his lawyers indicate they're on the verge of suing fox news. if they do indeed do that, how strong do you think their case is? what could happen? >> good to be with you, jonathan. it's hard to tell. we don't know all the details of the lawsuit, but there are laws in place in various states in what's called revenge porn. and there's nonconsensual disclosure of sexually explicit

images and he could go after them for that. and not putting out the factual part the articles they're basing this story on about the fbi informabout when was the guy who told all about hunter biden, well that inform want was recently indicted for lying about hunter biden. that's the thinking behind the lawsuit. there are broad first amendment protections and it's hard to say at this early stage when they will sue, whether they'll succeed. >> this dd be the latest case of holding media organizations accountable. fox news in another lawsuit making a major payment not long ago. let's turn to the hush money trial. banker garret farrow set to return to the stand. >> this is the nuts and bolts of the case, namely the prosecutors put on a powerful witness in and

the middle you've got the blocking and tackling. you've got the details about how michael cohen got the money because he's not a rich man. so when he came up with $130,000, he had to go to a bank and get a home loan, and he had to create this shell company. well, you've got to establish that and that's why you put up a witness like this, who's not the most exciting witness. he's a banker after all, but in the end its important for prosecutors to establish the facts to the jury especially after the big high of the david pecker testimony who i think was devastating for the prosecution. he was a powerful witness, and i don't think trump's legal team really laid a glove on him. you start off with that high and go to this witness, the banker and then a few other witnesses like that and then you go for michael cohen. that's going to be must-see tv. if only new york had cameras in the courtroom. >> alas, new york does not. you mentioned pecker and you deemed his testimony devastating. tell us why.

dig into that more. >> trump has three major defenses here. first, he wants to establish he knew nothing. he wasn't aware of anything, it's a low level employee who did this accounting mistake, if you even want to call it that. here, david pecker who was in the room when it happened, who said that this was a scheme, that there were three people involved, it was pecker, michael cohen, and donald trump, and he repeatedly said, yeah, trump knew about all this stuff. and he said it's a broader scheme. he wanted us to pay for it for stormy daniels but we didn't, and that's pretty damaging. second, it's important to trump's defense he try to establish this wasn't about a campaign finance violation, this was about protecting trump's marriage, that's why if they did it, they did it for that purpose. but david pecker says melania was never mentioned in the conversations. it was always about the campaign. and finally the trump defense is going to put michael cohen on

trial, the key witness, because michael cohen is a fraud witness, he's had perjury charges. here you have david pecker corroborating michael cohen in advance. it's so much harder to discredit a guy when you have multiple witnesses corroborating what he's about to say. >> we'll have complete coverage on msnbc today as the trial resumes. state attorney from palm beach county, dave aronberg, thank you very much. still ahead here on "way too early," what we're learning this morning about a deadly shooting in charlotte, north carolina, that left four law enforcement officers dead. plus, south dakota governor kristi nomes facing backlash about a story about killing a puppy. we'll take a look at the blow back she's getting. those stories and a check on sports and weather when we come right back. sports and weather when we come right back

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welcome back. as we turn to some of the morning's other top headlines including this tragic one. four law enforcement officers were killed and four others were shot and wounded yesterday while trying to serve a warrant at a home in charlotte, north carolina. police say the members of a u.s. marshal's fugitive task force and some local officers were met with gunfire from a high powered rifle when they arrived at the charlotte home yesterday afternoon. they then returned fire and killed the suspect in the home's front yard. as officers approached him, someone inside the home, fired at them. officers eventually cleared the home and took two persons of interest into custody. the charlotte police chief yesterday praised the bravery of those officers. >> they knew what they were going into and still held their own in attempt to apprehend this

suspect. they knew that they had officers that needed help, that needed to be extracted from that location. yet they went in, some getting shot themselves as a result. so the bravery, the heroism, everything that goes down with -- that defines what our profession is, our people demonstrated that today. >> this morning we now know the names of three of the fallen officers. sam palosh and alden elliot were both 14 year veterans and also task force officers working with the u.s. marshals. late last night police announced that charlotte officer joshua eyer also died of his injuries. a fourth deputy with the u.s. marshals has not yet been publicly identified. police do say all the other officers who are shot, they are expected to survive. meanwhile, to politics now.

south dakota governor kristi noem is still facing intense backlash from both sides of the aisle after she admitted to killing her 14-month old puppy, a little dog named cricket. she did so in her upcoming memoir. or story even baffled some fox news hosts and analysts who say a she sabotaged herself while also describing how the fallout of the submission, killing a puppy in a gravel pit, can be quite damaging to her vice presidential aspirations. >> when you think about people having a dog put down, and i had an experience with a dog in our family having to be put down, you go to the vet and the vet does a little shot and the dog goes unconscious and doesn't feel anything. not a lot of people have gone onto execute their own dog, and i a great many people will look at that and think it's telling.

killing your dog strikes people as not normal behavior as they will probably imagine by a not normal person. >> the fact she wanted to say that is also telling. >> peculiar. i mean if i were a political advisor to her, and that's not my department, but had i been asked for an opinion i would say don't put that in your book whatever you do. >> i have four rescues, and i have a puppy. i've got to tell you, you know, what she's done is she's sabotaged herself. whether or not it was to buttress what was coming down the road, but she also managed to unite the right and the left. because america if nothing else, we are dog lovers. >> she just destroyed any chance she had of being donald trump's vice president if she had any chance at all. there's no going back from this. >> we turn now to the latest on the war in ukraine and news of russian advances among multiple

points on the front line. in a lengthy social media post on sunday ukraine's commander in chief acknowledged the situation alt the front has worsened, saying russia has created a significant advantage in forces and means compelling ukraine to retreat from three villages near the front as it waits for additional aid to arrive. this assessment also points to russian advances west of the city of avdivka from where ukraine had to reteat back in february. that's an assessment corroborated by the institute of the study of war, a non-profit think tank based in washington. now, of course the u.s. finally did approve aid to ukraine, but the delay in doing so was costly, and it's still going to be some time before the benefit is felt on the battlefield. next up here we'll turn to sports with the latest playoff action in both the nhl and nba. we'll tell you who is moving on who's going home. plus, the l.a. dodgers pull off something they hadn't done in nearly 20 years.

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the nuggets will continue their nba title defense against the minnesota timberwolves around 2:00. that's going to be a terrific series. game one is saturday. as for the lakers real speculation what's next. the coach in the hot seat, and also what does lebron james do? he was noncommittal after the game as what the future holds. he could be a free agent. the lakers season over, what a pity. meanwhile in new orleans after 18 lead changes last night the oklahoma city thunder pulled away in the fourth quarter to ebeat the pelicans. the thunder will face the los angeles dodgers or clippers. the boston celtics for the sixth time in miami beat the heat last night. derek white led the way with a career high 38 points. boston will try to closeout the series at home tomorrow night

but real worry about -- who suffered a contact injury yesterday. hard to see them winning a title if he's out. fingers crossed. meanwhile, there was an elimination game last night in the first round of the stanley cup playoffs. the panthers will play either the boston bruins or toronto maple leaves around 2:00. boston leads that series. the dallas stars got even against the defending champs beating the golden knights for the second straight game. game five tomorrow in dallas. turning now to the nfl. kansas city chiefs star travis kelce, you've heard of him, is reportedly set to be the highest paid tight end in the league. the team yesterday announced a two-year contract extension for kelce that runs through the 2024

season. the nine time pro bowler and three time super bowl champion will earn more than $34 million over that time. now to seattle. we'll pick things up with a runner on and full count. seattle's mitch garber steps to the plate. >> 3-2 pitch. high drive left field. we've got a mariners win. >> game over. garver's two run homer walks the mariners off. and the dodgers did not strike-out a single time against the arizona diamondbacks. the last time the franchise played a full game without a strikeout back in august 2006. time now for the weather and let's bring in angie lassman for

the forecast. >> we're dealing with that severe weather potential across the country and a line of showers and thunderstorms working from the great lakes to the tennessee valley. we'll watch for potential flooding especially around parts of the. at round ax. iowa to kansas the same areas hit hard friday and the weekend we'll see all the hazards on the table, but specifically we're looking at the large hail up to softball size in some of these spots, but the straight line winds a potential too and can't rule out a couple of tornados. then we see a new system emerge as we get into tomorrow and this will be out of the rockies bringing another chance of strong storms from texas, stretching up into parts of the northern plains. the hail, strong winds, and even a couple of tornados on the table for folks in that region for tomorrow. and on top of that really impressive rainfall happening

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the east coast, 2:30 out west on this tuesday morning. i'm jonathan lemire. thanks for being with us. vice president kamala harris kicked off her economic opportunity tour in atlanta yesterday. the nationwide tour plans to tout efforts by the biden administration to increase economic opportunity from four minority business owners. speaking to a prominently black crowd of around 300 people harris promised to focus on widening access to all entrepreneurs. >> none of us have achieved success without support, none of us. and without someone or people who understood our talent and our dreams and encourage us to achieve it and show us how to achieve it, and as much as anything the spirit behind the push for access to capital and in particular on this tour

focusing on minority small businesses and black owned small businesses and small businesses and entrepreneurs who are black men is to recognize the disparities that have existed around the access to the opportunity to achieve success. >> joining us now politico reporter covering the intersection of the white house and capitol hill. jen, good to see you this morning. let's first start with the idea of economic messaging. the biden administration has been frustrated for a long time. they point to the numbers and say, hey, the economy is doing pretty well. it doesn't seem to break through of late a little worry some of the inflation numbers. that's going to be a drag come november. so talk to us, if you will, about the vice president's trip here and how she is now making the latest effort to turn public sentiment around. >> yeah, exactly. on paper this economy is doing well, but people don't feel that. they don't feel it when they go to the grocery store, don't feel

it in their pocketbook, and that's a real problem for the president because the economy can look as great as you want on paper, but if people don't feel that in november when they're casting their ballot, you know, they're not going to pull the lever for president biden. so what the vice president is trying to do is get the word out about some of the things that the administration has already done to improve the economy, what they're going to in the future this visit to atlanta was the start of this economic opportunity tour, where she's particularly focusing on things the administration has done for black americans. she talked a lot about a $150 million grant that the administration has given to atlanta to help bridge some of the black communities that were cut off from downtown by the highway, reconnecting those communities to the downtown. that's something that the administration is going to be continuing to talk about in atlanta and other places. and i think the important thing to remember here is that this is

about ensuring that black voters come out for the president in the fall. there was a recent poll that showed some 30% of black men are probably or plan to vote for donald trump. and this georgia let alone the other swing states are places that the administration, you know, really needs black voter turnout to be successful. >> yeah, it's a great point there about the slippage in numbers from black voters. georgia, of course, a huge battleground as well. jen, tell us a little bit more about the role the vice president is going to play. she's become an important voice, frankly the administration's leading voice on abortion rights. but it is this going to be something we're going to hear more from her, this idea of pitching to black voters to try to bring them back onboard? give us the campaign strategy to make an appeal to win back black voters, frankly, they just have to have this time around? >> absolutely. we're going to see the vice president talk more about abortion rights. this is an area she has really

really thrived because her message is so heartfelt. some of the voters i've spoken to say they really feel like they connect to the vice president when she talks about this issue, so we're going to see her talking about it in florida and presumably other swing states because it's an issue where the campaign feels like this is going to be an issue that brings voters out. so between these two issues, the economy and abortion, these are two of the top campaign issues for democrats and the vice president is really embracing them on the trail. >> holding a pretty aggressive schedule as she does. terrific analysis this morning. we appreciate it. next up here we'll go live to cnbc for an early look at what's driving the day on wall street including what caused tesla shares to rise sharply, marking the company's best day in more than three years. we'll be right back with that. t.

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time now for business. and for that let's bring in cnbc's silvia amaro who joins us live from london. good morning, silvia. so stock futures slightly down this morning after what had been a positive start to the week. what should we expect from wall street today? >> so according to the futures they suggest it could be a negative start to the trading session on wall street today, but let's see what's going to happen. this is still a very busy time for investors with earnings season still ongoing. we're actually going to hear from amazon later on today. but no doubt the big event for the markets this week is the meeting for the federal reserve. now, at this stage some banks are actually adjusting their expectations for monetary policy from the fed suggesting we might

not see any rate cuts this year. so let's see what jerome powell will have to say when he addresses the press tomorrow. but there's a couple of fears really he might sound quite hawkish and indeed fuel that sentiment we might not get any rate cuts. but let's see. >> yeah, all eyes on powell tomorrow. so a couple other stories now. elon musk wrapped up a surprise trip to china in less than 24 hours, but he came away with a crucial victory. give us the latest, please. >> so according to tesla they said the chinese authorities removed restrictions on its cars after passing the country's data security requirements. this is important because long story short, it boosts expectations tesla might be able to have their self-driving cars available in china. let's see what will happen. this is really just a first step in many, but nonetheless it actually boosted sentiment on the stock, and we saw shares of tesla rising sharply on monday.

>> and taylor swift is on such a roll and is now having a historic week on the billboard charts. tell us about it. >> exactly. so after the release of her latest album, she hit record streaming number, but on top of that she also sold nearly 2 million physical records last week alone. so when you look at the numbers these are very, very impressive. and i just wanted to share this comment because in essence according to data from billboard all of 14 albums by taylor swift, they -- they were to debut at number one. this is quite impressive with so many albums hitting number one at the stabling of their release. there are questions what she

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extraordinarily -- extraordinarily generous on the part of israel. and in this moment the only thing standing between the people of gaza and a cease-fire is hamas. they have to decide, and they have to decide quickly. >> that was secretary of state antony blinken in saudi arabia yesterday, and we are learning more about the latest cease-fire proposal that's been put forth to hamas. according to an israeli official and an arab diplomat with knowledge of negotiations 40 hostages would be free. the hostages would consistent of women, children, the elderly, and those with serious medical conditions. earlier talks had called for 40 hostages to be res leased, but hamas has indicated it might not have that many living hostages who fit the criteria. we've also learned that israel has for the first time indicated it would accept a sustained

cease-fire lasting more than six weeks. president biden spoke with some of the arab mediators working on the proposal yesterday. the white house believes there is a narrow window for reaching a deal before israel would begin its long threat and assault on rafah despite president biden's warning against doing so. joining us now chief white house correspondent for "the new york times" peter baker. peter, we're always so pleased when you can join us. reporting on this extensively and your new story includes a few factors the biden's team hopes to capitalize and a wild card that's also in the mix. break it down for us, please. >> yeah, exactly. we've been of course seeing these talks start and stop and stalemate basically for months, but the white house sees a particularly narrow window that might be available right now to make this deal. part of it of course they want to take advantage against the successful advance of israel from that iranian strike a

couple weeks ago. they believe the public opinion in israel is increasingly putting pressure to bring home the hostages and they would like to have a normalization more importantly for them a defense. and they see some indications hamas may be willing to make a deal. remember at this point the americans have said it's hamas not israel that has stopped the deal, that israel has agreed to what the americans have been proposing as you say going further in their most recent proposal. so they see this window of opportunity, and you're right they want to do this if it can happen before any operation in rafah. if that happens and the israelis go into gaza where there are a million so gazans who have takenraphygy the large scale casualty would be such the idea of a cease-fire would be off the table at that point.

>> you also revealed potential trouble on capitol hill. can you briefly elaborate on that? >> right, exactly. you've had this fear we've heard expressed the last few days from the israeli officials that international criminal court may be preparing arrest warrants for some senior israels over the conduct of the war. the united states rejects this saying the icc doesn't have the jurisdiction and doesn't believe they can do what they're doing. you also have the ticking clock of the legislative calender. if the saudis want to get a new arrangement through congress before the november elections it's probably a bit already too late, but they believe you really have to get something on the table in the next week or so. and they're interested in doing it if they can before the election, because if trump takes over they believe they'll lose all support they have from democratic senators. nothing would get through the senate in that kind of circumstance. so they're racing the clock that

gives them a very, very short if possible opportunity here. >> peter, lastly, we opened the show with the growing protest movements on college campus including columbia university where they've seized ack-ackdemic building and the university put out a statement urging students to stay off-campus with all that's going on. we know the biden administration is watching with growing worry. give us a sense how they feel about these protests. is there anything they can do? >> well, the president has tried to walk a careful line. he's for free speech he says but not for anti-semitism. where that line is it's hard for anyone to define so clearly everyone would agree. the campaign operatives trying to get the president re-elected g to get the president re-electe

and i still believe other issues like abortion rights and the economy and so forth ultimately will drive young voters. the campaign side of the house is definitely focused on getting this. they have obviously their own reasons for foreign policy to want to get this war over and get this war over. the two sides have similar views at this point. >> the democratic national convention this summer in chicago. chief white house correspondent at "the new york times," peter baker, terrific insights this morning. up next, mike johnson's job hangs in the balance as the

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welcome back. congresswoman marjorie taylor greene appears to be playing the waiting game on whether to force the vote to oust house speaker mike johnson. after more than a month and after johnson crossed green's so-called red lines, the georgia

congresswoman hasn't yet moved on her threats, and some of her concerted allies appear to be less than sympathetic to her efforts. however, greene's spokesperson told "politico" on sunday, quote, "anyone is saying she is backing down is high, drunk, or simply out of their minds." the georgia congresswoman posted that johnson's days as speaker were numbered. joining us now, politics reporter at semafor. kadia, you have reporting that marjorie taylor greene might not be the only thing that threatens johnson's job. what are you hearing? >> yeah, it is interesting. i've reported, or tried to report over a few days about whether or not donors had an appetite to, you know, support marjorie taylor greene's effort. it turns out, some of the larger donors actually believe that he's doing a fine job.

in particular, because he was able to pass that national security package. it kind of gave them some kind of confidence that he could probably unite at least enough of his conference so that they could actually work and pass more legislation. what he would be concerned about is smaller donors. many lawmakers tell me that during the recess break, they went back home, and people were very, very upset about them passing this legislation. we'll see what happens. >> certainly, the biden administration very pleased that that supplemental, including the ukraine funding, got done. that was the last big item on their checklist, but talk about what else might be on johnson's agenda here in the time that he still has, assuming he hangs on to his job as speaker. >> yeah, members of congress will be in session for about four weeks straight, and

rightfully so because they have a lot to do. starting with this week, there is a resolution, bipartisan revolution, mike lawler, that will basically try to change the definition of anti-semitism. following that, there's the faa that needs to be reauthorized, which is the federal aviation, as well as the farm bill which is also going to expire later in the year. they do have a lot to do. as you know, congress moves pretty slowly, so they'll need these four weeks ahead. >> striking that was not on the list, anything about impeaching president biden. is that effort all but done? >> yeah, there was some reporting from cnn that the effort has actually slowed and that they could be wrapping it up, but there's no official take on that. we don't hear a lot. the hearings have kind of died down. i guess i would assume moving into the election time, it's probably not the best thing that

you want hanging over your head for republicans, especially when you want to go back to your constituents and tout about all your accomplishments. >> yeah. certainly, they have yet to provide any evidence of wrongdoing, and polls suggest most americans don't support the efforts. lastly, you mentioned the elections. they're approaching. there's so much focused on the presidential, but, yet, the margin in the house is so very slim. what is the latest you hear when you speak to democrats and republicans? who do you think they favor will get control in november? >> a lot of democrats are respectfully confident about their regaining the house. i think one of the biggest concerns is that the senate would fall for republicans, would go toward republicans, but i think the interesting thing is, for a while, republicans in the house have been saying they don't think they'll regain the house, which is kind of astonishing. they say it's attributed to the

speaker not being able to push some of the legislation or some or their agenda ahead. we'll see what the americans say. it is a presidential year, and a lot of big things or -- you know, two, big, major people on the ticket. >> seems the consensus is emerging, republicans take the senate but lose the house. you're right, the top of the ticket, biden versus trump, may dictate what happens in the building behind you. kadia goba, thank you for joining us this morning. thanks to all of you for getting up "way too early" on this tuesday morning. a jam-packed "morning joe" starts right now. if you like puppies, you're not going to like kristi noem. because in her new book, she admitted to killing her dog. now, i know that sounds terrible. [ crowd booing ] look, i know it sounds terrible, but it is much worse. cricket ruined the hunt, going out of her mind with excitement, chasing all those birds and havingim