america's role as a leading supporter. both of civil rights and a free speech for decades, iran has been the us and israel's strongest adversary in the middle east. iran and israel recently trading direct military blows for the first time i went to a press conference of the iranian foreign ministry, the spokesman saying, tech ron believes global opinion is now shifting their way jobs, quote, oblique opinion of the world and free thinkers of the world will not tolerate this genocide and they're loud voice won't be silenced. >> he said, and through police act chun's and violent crackdown policies, they cannot silence the voice of those that protest against this crime and genocide. >> john tehran, ripping into the us as the protesters on american campuses demand schools divest from israel and want the biden administration to pressure israel to stop its attacks get cnn tech wrong.

>> and thanks so much for joining us ac30, 60 begins now tonight on three, 60 protesters to filing deadlines and facing academic sanctions and campuses across the country. >> the latest live on the pro-palestinian demonstrations, the police response to elements of anti-semitism and the impact this all could have on presidential politics. also tonight to look ahead at what to expect when the trump hush money criminal trial resumes tomorrow morning here in new york, and a report from haiti. cnn exclusive for the country torn apart by gangs. or david culver tracks down in interviews, one gang leader who's now and the fbi's ten most wanted fugitives list. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin with pro-palestinian campus demonstrations entering their second week and growing it seems not going away. we spring commencement fast approaching university officials nationwide are now taking action to confront them. that said in different ways with different

degrees of success, they're juggling a lot freedom of expression, students, safety, alumni pressure, and of course, all of it driven by one of the world's truly intractable conflicts. want to go first as cnn's ed lavendera, the university of texas in austin. we're please just apparently using pepper spray on some in the crowd within the last hour. and what's the latest where you are just explain what's happening around you. >> well, all of the protesters that were taken into custody or we don't have an official number yet and a number of people arrested. but what we witnessed was several dozen protesters taken into custody once those people were moved off campus. law enforcement if it serves, have now moved away from the scene. and this is what his left of the massive protest scene there are still a few people here gathered in the exact same spot where much of this protest started earlier in the de and it was incredibly tense for some time we saw state troopers once again return here to the campus and circle. this area that had been taken over with tense and

dozens of students, which they described anderson has a liberated in kanban zone in solidarity with what other campuses have been doing as well. and when that happened with the tense come up, university officials say that they were not going to have any tolerance for any kind of occupation or a tense that would signify that this was going to grow into a larger protest, a permanent larger protest. asked here on the ground, and that's when we saw the state troopers and law enforcement come in and over the course of several hours systematically just pull protestors one-by-one, taking them away from the scene here. this afternoon and then there were protesters, essentially following law enforcement officers and state troopers trying to force them chanting at them to get off of campus, pushing them away. and that led to the altercation that you talked about, the pepper spray as the officers were trying to get those that were arrested on the buses and off of the campus, as well as state troopers in riot here that had been brought on to the campus. so another tense day, but i must say very different from

what we saw last week in attention and in the islands altered violent altercations that we saw take place between protesters and law enforcement last week, there were nearly 60 people arrested. all of those criminal charges were dismissed. so it'd be interesting to see what happens with the protesters that were taken in too custody here today at austin anderson is it clear how many are actual students at ut well, university officials told us this afternoon in a statement that they believe that the majority of the people who were involved in today's protests we're not students. in fact, they said it was a group that started sending threats to university officials over the weekend and they're the ones that organized. it was really interesting how this developed. there had been what had been built as an educational event. there was poetry reading, there was artwork. i'm making protest signs that sort of thing. and then over here on the steps of the main tower building, there was a silent digital by probe by professors.

and as that happened, all of this kind of quickly developed into an encampment zone. so it almost seemed like a very deliberate kind of strategy and a plan to create this particular moment that we saw on campus today and that's what university officials say. they were not going to put up with. and they also believed that much of this was caused by people who are not students here university, ed lavendera. thanks very much. next to columbia university, which has started suspending student protesters for defying an order to leave there in canvas this afternoon, the school has also closed the canvas to anyone but students and staff. sudan's miguel marquez is at a protest just outside one entryway to the campus. so what does it look like right now where you are and what? what do seeing yeah, these are the main gates. >> there was a one-sixteenth and broadway, there was a big protest here earlier today, several dozen protesters, but now it's maybe a dozen, maybe a bit more than that. still chanting inside you can see about 300 yards from here are

where the encampment is. those protesters in that encampment area, some of them have already been suspended, as he said, that the school after about 2:00 p.m. deadline starting to the proceedings to suspend the students it sounds like they're trying to identify everybody in that encampment suspend them so they're no longer a students. then at some point the university clearly does not want to call nypd. and again, after when they did that two weeks ago, it kicked off this backlash across the country. so they're trying to avoid that. but once there are no longer students of columbia, push is going to come to shove push is going to come to shove at some point. and the question is when anderson, so we're police called in to campus today because we're seeing images and police putting somebody in a van. was that yeah. i'll assign the camp out. >> there were police there. >> there wasn't a large number, but outside the campus, there were police or are still some nypd officers and we saw

that arrests there was a woman that was up on this poll actually, the light pole at 1:16 and broadway, she was putting up posters. she's said that police were telling her to get down. she refused. apparently and that's when they took her away and put her in the van. it's not clear she was arrested. they just took her away. maybe maybe they let her go a short time later. it's not clear what she was issues facing the charges at all, but she wasn't following the police orders. and that's why they let her away. it's not clear how much bigger this protest is going to be. i've walked around the university to see on the other side of his the protests, but it's very quiet over there, so it looks like we're in this stalemate between protesters and the university. and at some points, push is going to come to shove and their into finals now commencements in two weeks, the university clearly wants to get on with the business of being an educational institution. and they got marquez. thanks very much joining us now from campus at columbia as a columbia student and cnn freelancer, john towfighi i'm john. how

would have you seen today? how are things right now on campus? >> yeah. thank you for having me on anderson. >> today is a beautiful monday evening. >> in fact, it's the last day of classes for students at columbia college and the other other graduate schools. and we see a lot of students walking around campus. and of course notably, we see dozens of students still indian cabinet and anderson as your viewers, you would like to know today, university president minouche shafik put out a statement to the protesters and the encampment saying they had until 2:00 p.m. to disband. and like i said, there are dozens of students define the university presence orders and still out on the lawns what's interesting to know is that this morning minutiae feeds sent an email to the columbia community at about 8:00 a.m. notifying people that negotiations between the students and the administrators had indeed ended. however, what was not said in the email was that at about 10:00 a.m. the university administration began to drop pamphlets in the encampment, notifying students of this 2:00 p.m. deadline. as you can imagine, that drew a lot of people to campus to

protect the students from potential eviction by the administration so that actually drew more people to the encampment. >> so at this point, you said, how large is the hammond right now to roughly do you know? >> yeah. so since the encampment has been on the university grounds since wednesday, april 17, there have been roughly 200 students coming going, sleeping overnight in the encampment. the number is hard to pin down. show what i will say i was there on your laptop actually, is it behind you? i think i'm good luck. >> show you here so i'm directly outside of the encampment. you can see there are tense as i spin around. you can see columbia's butler library, which is the main library on campus. so the students are still out in force. and today, the students actually voted amongst themselves, whether they were going to adhere to the university's demand to disband or whether they were going to stay i was here watching that vote and i tell you it was an overwhelming majority to stay with students raising their hands and cheering to stay on the encampment john towfighi, i

appreciate the report, john. thank you very much thank you appreciate it. joining us now is lawrence summers, former clinton treasury secretary and former president of harvard university, where he's now president and emiratis and the charles wlan university professor, secretary summers, thank you for being with its first. what is your reaction? to these protests, which we are now seeing on campuses at columbia and in texas. we've seen the meta usc and other places these are very sad pictures. >> students have a right to protest. they have a right to express themselves they don't have a right to disrupt. and it's very clear that there are substantial disruption on many campuses and administrations have agonizingly difficult choices to me i wish they had made the decision not to allow these students to enter in the first place i wish that they

had rapidly threatened escalating discipline and suspensions, inability to graduate, the inability to get credit for the semester. i wish they had been much stronger in responding to earlier provocations of which there have been many since october 7, i think if it had been managed right. we wouldn't be discussing police presences in the way that we are. i think it's not difficult to respond to some things. for example, the john harvard statue at harvard has been defaced by a coffee in placed on it for four days and no one has even been removed that so i think these are very difficult issues. i think there's a lot you can do short of calling in the police,

but it has to be completely clear sure. that you cannot disrupt with impunity. i also think that there's no reason why those who are not students who are disrupting campus activities should not be promptly arrested and charged with trespassing i think just as anybody on a university campus, when they get funding from the outside for their activities, is expected to be accountable. i think there needs to be close investigations of how these protest efforts are being funny so this is not about which side you are or how you think about anti-zionism versus emt semitism. this is about a basic concept of academic freedom which involves respect for order and too many campuses.

those values were not upheld with sufficient bigger over the last six months. >> let me predict the consequences now, let me ask you, i mean, i'm wondering did you ever confronted situations like this when you were present in a harbor? >> i when i was at school, in the 1985 to 89, there were anti-apartheid protests on campus but it wasn't turning students against one another and students feeling threatened by other protesters who were screaming at them. have you ever her face something like this i didn't there were not protests of this kind when i was at harvard, i think largely that was a function of the circumstance and what the particular moment was may also have had to do with the fact that there was a sense that there would be a strong when vigorous response. >> i agree with you that the

thing that's most like this that i can remember is the events that took place during the vietnam war period where there were threats epithets hurled at people who were in the military or who supported the vietnam war and where there were active attempts to demonize people who were members of the community and you are seeing that in the acts that are taking place towards jewish and zionists students and that makes this a particularly repugnant form of speech in a way that was not the case in the apartheid protests or the living wage protest. it i have to say that i've got very little sympathy

for these protesters and it seems to me that at a moral minimum, they want to recognize they feel what they're doing is profoundly just but they should recognize as martin luther king did and as gandhi did, that, accepting punishment, even severe punishment was part of the act of civil disobedience rather than trying to rally rally allies to insert this that they will not be disciplined. >> it also seems that some of these, you know, there's professors on campus at columbia who are encouraging these protests. they have tenure. they can't be fired. the students can be kicked out. i was amazed to learn that one of the heads of the protests at columbia during a disciplinary committee, zoom call said that the zionist should be killed. it didn't deserve to live. >> and that wasn't grounds for

expulsion. >> it's only now that that person has been expelled from the school months after that was already out there i don't i'm not going to comment on the facts of that situation because i don't precisely know it but yes, something i saw at harvard was a dean from the lead the title dean was busy feeding, passing food buried he goes into protesters who occupied one of our university buildings and our administration did nothing about that. and now they're surprised that protests have grown. and mushroom. >> so i think there's a real question about accountability for everyone. i think it is integral even though sometimes painful and problematic for faculty to have the right to express opinions in a very free

that's academic freedom. but acting on those opinions with respect to student discipline having that freedom be extended to making statements on behalf of the university, having that freedom be extended to what they do when they're supposed to be objective judges. that's a much, much more problematic thing. >> i underneath it's to be a lot of soul searching about way universities are governed and my own sense is that trustees who are the ultimate fiduciary, who make all these rules about tenure at everything else have been much too passive. r2d2, much of his seven lauren summers, i really appreciate it your time today. thank you very much thank you. joining us now is former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe, also charles ramsey, former philadelphia police commissioner, before that police chief for the district of columbia, andrew, how important is it in your view, four university of this kind of situation. i mean, how

would you know the decision to actually bring in local law enforcement a columbia? i don't think that had been done really until since the 19 late 19, i think 1968 was the last time actually police nypd were called in on the campus yeah. >> interesting. it's an incredibly impactful decision and it's one that lawn or university administrators should consider very closely before they do that, because once you bring law enforcement in, law enforcement is a very blunt tool, they are, they're predominantly because the university has reached out and said, hey, we are the property owners. there are people here trespassing on our property in a way that we don't support and we need your help to remove those people. so that's basically what law enforcement thank can do, particularly in these private spaces, private universities, things like that. so they're going to come in and try to help disperse the people who are no longer welcome in that space and they're gonna do

it by announcing that you have to leave and setting a deadline. but ultimately that removal of people becomes a very confrontational and hard to watch spectacle. but again, like law enforcement is very limited in the tools that they can bring to that conflict. and ultimately they bring those tools at the behest of university administrators and chief ramsey. >> i'm once a law enforcement is on the scene, what is the process of dealing with approach credit protests group that's been asked to disburse well, i mean hopefully, you always hope that people will do so peacefully. >> but clearly, in many of these instances, that's not taking place. so the officers will use a minimal amount of force but it doesn't look good and police are in the middle. i mean, you get asked to go to the university to deal with the situation but what's being shown on tv or the cops and the

demonstrators and it just doesn't look good. so you do the best you can to try to resolve it peacefully. but the longer this goes, the more difficult is going to be in my opinion, many of these universities made a huge mistake by allowing these encampments to start in the first place. they only get larger and more difficult to get rid of so they're really behind the curve right now. you have graduations coming up pretty soon columbia university of texas. those are the areas where the commencement is going to take place. and many of these kids that are graduating they they they didn't have a high school graduation because of covid and now they may miss the opportunity to march in college. it's not fair for them and women cave charles ramsey. >> thank you. coming up next, what we can expect tomorrow on the stand when prosecution testimony, the former president's new york trial picks back up, also will hear from independent women voters in the key state of north carolina from across the political spectrum. would they have to say, but how the trial

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proceedings. we to the prosecution's case today on a social network from reposted a clip of central lindsey graham telling cnn's dana bash, then all the trump trials are political and in the scenario, senators were selective prosecution just ahead tonight, we're going to hear from a group of undecided women voters in the key state of north carolina and get their take on this trial. but first cnn's kara scannell joins us with what we can expect for tomorrow. so who's starting on the stand tomorrow? do we know who's next so on the stand tomorrow will still be michael cohen's banker. >> he started testifying on friday and he was beginning give the jury a sense of the documents in this case because he was he testified michael cohen was in a hurry to set up bank accounts for two shell companies. one of those companies, essential consultants, is the one that ultimately pay the $130,000 payment to stormy daniels, the hush money so tomorrow i expect the jury will see these wires air transfers, and it will give them a sense of how this happened all before michael cohen is even called to the witness stand, but setting up some of the documents in this

case, there is a period in this trial. this is about falsified documents where we're going to have to see some documents and not the sort of narrative testimony that we got from david pecker and the idea that this was rushed it's important for the prosecution to kind of show that the urgency of it before the election exactly. the first one that michael cohen was setting up was to handle the reimbursement to ami for paying karen mcdougal ultimately, ami call that often said they didn't want to do the reimbursement. the second one was for the stormy daniels payment and we've seen the creation of these companies mr. the documents on friday and now we'll get the sense of the money trial from here. >> i want to bring in also former federal prosecutor, cnn, senior legal analyst elie honig, and best-selling author, geoffrey tube and jeff, who would you expect take the stand next. >> there are working up to michael cohen. i don't know if he will be next, but he will be soon, but these this testimony it's not the most thrilling stuff in the world to see the czechs and the financial transactions put in into

evidence. but this is going to corroborate michael cohen. it's going to be very important testimony that the prosecution is going to say, look, michael cohen didn't invent these transactions it's here are the money that pet changed hands. here is how it was done here it was when it was done so it's very important that this testimony come before michael cohen because it will corroborate him, at least in part, when he does take this and that's important, ally, you've given his credibility problems. >> yeah. look the goal of prosecutors, the task that prosecutors have to to deal with is they have to support michael cohen every possible way they can. checks financial documents, ledgers, other witnesses, because they understand michael cohen is a rickety witness. he's got he has major credibility problems and what they want to be able to do is stand in front of the jury, however many weeks we're now and say, you don't have to take michael cohen's word at face value on any of with this because every important thing he said to you is backed up by some document or some other witness that's the whole ballgame here in my view, there's also another gag order hearing scheduled for later

this week, on thursday. there's a gag order hearing for four new violations are alleged violations that prosecutors have already brought up i mean, we could get a ruling on the initial gag order violations. those are the ten violations that were argued before the judge last week in that case. the judge said that trump's lawyers weren't really giving them anything to hang his hat on. he seemed really skeptical of their arguments why trump didn't violate the gag order. so one thing we'll be looking for tomorrow is does the judge rule on that before the hearing on thursday, which is a separate set that if statements one thing i find somewhat strange is that he hasn't ruled on the first set of gag order alleged gag order violations yeah. >> because i mean, part of the reason you have a gag order is you want to stop any sort of bad behavior on the part of the people who were gagged there is a good case that trump has already violated it, but the judge hasn't ruled on it yet. now, it's like a perpetual motion machine. >> he keeps violating the gag order more according to the

prosecution. >> so they keep extending more hearings there should be a ruling very soon. >> i'm mystified by this. i mean, i'm officially retired from the art of predicting when this judge is going to rule on this because i think i've said every day it has to be today and i think he's leaving the door open. i wasn't judge merchan is doing a good job so far. he's the kind of judge i would like to appear in front of as a prosecutor, he's keeping order and efficiency in that courtroom. but this is a blind spot for him. i don't get what the delay is in terms. i mean, is it likely stormy daniels would be called as a likely karen mcdougal would be cool, i think, yes. >> on both probably, i think because they're necessarily helpful. let's say not not necessarily necessary, but helpful to the prosecution in sort of playing out but this case and showing the jury who the human beings, we're here. but the thing to keep in mind, i'm really looking for how is the defense can cross examine them because neither of them has testimony that goes to the heart of the crime, the heart of the crime has jeff was saying before, it's not the alleged affairs, it's not it's the hush money it's not the national enquirer, it's the way that those financial transactions were structured

and accounted for. and an effective cross of stormy daniels and karen mcdougal, both of whom, i mean, you've met anderson, i think seem likable and personable enough and effective cross would just be to go, you don't have the first idea how these payments to you. were accounted for in the bucks. do you? so now when you go that's it. fine, but that's that would be an effective cross. i agree. but we're not going to do it, but yeah they're not gonna do it because the defense lawyers here have to please their client and their client wants them wants him to fight once they're his lawyers to fight on every issue, even if a short cross like that might be more effective. elie honig, jeffrey tube and kara scannell. thanks so much. we'll stay on the topic obviously with a look at how women voters all undecided in north carolina from across the political spectrum, are reacting to this trial. part of a continuing series by our randy k. that's next i was paying for my x's wine club membership for months before i caught it after we broke up, i forgot all about it, but my credit card did not. that's why i downloaded rocket money, an app that shows you all your subscriptions in one place. and

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sat down with undecided republican, democratic, and independent women voters in north carolina, which the former president narrowly won in 2020 it's part of three, 60 is continuing series that 53%, which is the average proportion of women voters and presidential elections since 2000 randy's report don would you like a plate again it's not the catch and kill that's the issue it's the cover up. that's the worst part. >> it's the devil's in the cover up. >> well the accountant numbers don't add up not math he completely sees himself as teflon, like he does nothing sticks to him. and i'm really nervous that he's starting to look like he's right. >> one of these is going to have to take him down. i just can't see how you slither out of 90 plus charges how many of you believe that trump's should

be on trial for this? raise your hand. >> all of you there is not only smoke, there is fire. how many times can you say it's a witch on i'm personally tired of hearing it. >> so if he's misappropriating campaign funds or election funds, then yeah, he needs to be prosecuted if we have one person who is above the law then what is the purpose of the law? >> sure. counting wrote it down right. recorded it. you got witnesses who said you did it it's what he's paying for it even in the store for you because the porn star that we're characterizing in castigated the women. >> they were doing a job. >> so prosecutors say that trump has violated his gag order, attacking prosecutors, witnesses, jurors, does any of this surprise you? >> this person has something more powerful than money. he has an audience, he has rabid audience that is very willing to do whatever they want. so then does even $1,000 per

violation or going to jail for any period of time. is that enough, given his influence? >> so he's gonna have to go to solitary because secret service cannot write, cannot protect that came in general population. >> i don't put him under the jail we do not shriek from putting other inmates in solitary confined, right? >> that's fine. >> there and shut up. he could talk to the walls. he can talk to i don't care when it comes to your president, do ethics matter? >> the leadership of the free world? >> yeah, ethics matter, of course they matter here about it. >> it doesn't he doesn't care about anyone except himself. >> some of those stories might have deterred some of that electorate from actually voting for him, especially for the far right side of the republican party. none of trump's family has been in court with them to show your work including his wife, melania she did her duty

when she served for years and that was her serving four years? yeah. yeah. she did not sono deserve no trial. so she's going to be criticized for not showing up. >> she's going to be criticized for showing up. >> and if it were me, i take the bullet on not showing up when he was in office. >> she had no choice but to be present now, she has a choice to say, i don't need to be part of it. if trump is convicted in this hush money case, would any of you still consider voting for him convicted? no. no, no. not if convicted, how do you allow them? >> to have somebody do an executive order when the thing convicted of a crime, right. if you break the law and it's been proven, how can you dig take? you break the laws and attorney your licenses? second ultimately is a public servant so you are going to be paying people hush money, tell me how we can trust you with the highest office in this country. >> but aside from that is how do you enforce any punishment that he's given if the

punishment is jail, the argument is going to be butterfly of alcatraz. >> i look we have one okay. >> them all back could go and then could we have a sitting president who's technically supposed to be sitting in jail like that also worries me. i'm praying for third party at this point. >> did the women in your group have thoughts on the witnesses in the trial so far yeah, they did anderson we talked to them about david pecker, the former publisher of the national enquirer. >> and he's the one who took the immunity deal, as you know, and then was the first witness for the prosecution and they felt that even though he had taken the immunity deal, he was a credible witness and we didn't of two women who are lawyers in our group. i also talked to them, anderson about their concerns about what might happen if donald trump is convicted in this case. and they do have real concerns that it would just ignite his base reignite his base really, and that they would see this as a baseless conviction. if that does happen, and then that

would just be another reason but they would say that was another attempt at stealing the legend. so they have real concerns about that anderson, but you could hear how really disgusted they are with donald trump. and there were two women in our group who had voted for donald trump so they are undecided, but certainly very turned off by donald trump and very concerned about what might happen in this, in this trial. if he's convicted and also concerned about his role in this whole scheme, anderson. >> all right. randy, thanks so much coming up next to cnn exclusive of gangs in haiti controlling whole neighborhoods and uk capital or david culver made a dangerous journey into one gangs territory to interview their leader. he's on the fbi's ten most wanted fugitives list. >> david's report is you can see, a lot of hits high fred pleitgen in tech wrong. >> and this is cnn everybody wants super straight, super white teeth. >> they want that hollywood white smile, new sensor in clinical white provides two shades but her teeth and 24/7 sensitive your production. i

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there's chaos, lawlessness in haiti and it's been like this for months. gangland killings and kidnappings have terrorize the country just last week, haiti's prime minister officially announce his resignation, giving power to a transitional council that will try to restore order the ganglion or who spoke was seen as david culver is one of many accused of helping destabilise the caribbean nation. as i mentioned, he's one of the fbi's ten most wanted fugitives. here's what david found in his exclusive report this war torn intersection in port-au-prince is the blurred bedroom signaling. >> we are now in gang territory. >> this is an area where you have never been to before we're told to drive to this road and someone will meet us he's assured us that he's sending somebody and so we are to just wait for that person it looks like a vehicle here, truck the armed me and in the front seat. >> motion for us to follow. >> so we do over rocky and flooded streets we're

venturing deeper into land that for months, haitian security experts have warned stay away from it. >> but we'd been assured by this gangs leader that will be safe we only hope his messaging reached all the checkpoints. four guys in the car behind this as well. so fully s 40 and now they've added a motorbike with two guys after 45 minutes. >> and they're asking us to move several dozen masked men and women, most carrying guns, direct us towards a driveway. >> all right. this guy in front of us now seeming to be leading us to some sort of house good we're about to step out and meet veto loam innocent, considered by both us and haitian authorities to be a violent criminal and leader of the crossbar be gang. he's one of the fbi's ten most wanted with a bounty of up to $2 accused and the kidnapping of american missionaries death.

of. another american hostage. >> it alone rarely seeks media attention. >> yet given he commands what some us officials say is the largest gang in port-au-prince. and his domain includes the us embassy. we wanted to better understand his motives feet alone agrees to meet us. hi there. on his turf. i'm david flanked by his followers. he leads us inside this flashing mansion and so is this your home? in a room filled with gold rimmed furniture and stuffed animals. i asked him about the crisis engulfing haiti weeks up to our dream is to rid the country of the corrupt oligarchy in politicians who are holding us back. he says, we need to get rid of the system and returned stability to haiti he speaks with intention and calls for greater dialogue what if it's the same system that's been in power then as armed groups, we will never put down our weapons. he says and so do you

have regular communications with as you say, the other armed groups? we fall yes. >> we're united. he tells me the gangs have formed a coalition known as vivan psalm for living together and collectively they push back on foreign intervention, holding tight their grips over a fraction should state some using terror tactics like kidnapping, rape, and murder to sustain control. >> is that something you participated in an ordering? your men and women to kidnap he says he hopes to defend themselves against those allegations. and while not denying his followers have kidnapped people. he deflects blame to outside forces for creating a state of corruption as he sees it, he is eager to show us other parts of his home and territory and introduces us to his top command tender for your his cousin security experts suggest crossbar ea has more than 1,000 armed gang members, including recently escaped inmates.

>> as you can see, a lot of his armed soldiers and followers are around us and he suggested that we follow in dr. with them he brings us to the edge of his territory we notice his guards, normally curious and watching us are instead looking outward cautiously toward another gangs territory. >> a reminder that the coalition of gangs might be more fragile than portrayed in the midst of our tour and disturbing videos starts circulating on whatsapp. it reportedly shows the devastating and deadly aftermath of an allied gang attack on a community a few miles from where we are the destruction, the violence, the deaths that have played out. do you take any responsibility for that? >> will susan mosfet on q-tip lives reverb. >> he only says he made mistakes and is not perfect politicians were interrupted. something nearby puts his guards on edge we pick up the conversation a short distance

away. in your editor, caitlin hu further pressing for an explanation to the we've seen in haiti but we have also met in hospitals, women, children, innocent people who have been burned. course leave their homes who had been shot, who have been raped why are innocent people suffering in this struggle simple sensibility is awestruck if he does not clearly answer instead, he frames the months of deadly street violence as collateral damage. >> he points the finger at police saying they refuse to engage in dialogue and instead, recklessly opened fire police say they're desperately trying to keep the gangs from gaining more ground the alarm claims to be a man of faith to vout in practicing voodoo a common religion here in haiti i've heard rumors and i don't know how through there. so i asked you that you have voodoo protection. do you feel that protection yes. >> he tells me confidently adding that he prays daily for his fellow haitians ultimately,

what is it going to take to bring stability and of calm to this country? >> moody shot. plus 0k he says he and the other armed groups need to be included in discussions of haiti's future. >> that's the only way he sees convincing gang members to drop their guns in exchange for a future outside of violence of it as curfew nears, we head back the way we came, pete alone, stopping several times along the way, mingling with locals and in our food, smiling on a campaign trail he wants us, to meet these two men blind refugees. they tell us veto long took them in, but it leaves us wondering why help these men enforced so many others out of their homes? look at actions over words. he tells

me as we near the edge of his territory and the end of our five-hour visit hi that's not hang around here be the alarm gets out of his motorcade waves for us to move forward. >> and strolls to the desolate street corner he then comes to our door and shakes each of our hands his actions intentional and symbolic here we are just blocked in yosemite admits clearly demonstration of how competent he is the many he has around him as play they show of force a flexing of strength in a lawless nation where today at least gangs hold the power and david joins us now, what, what's the latest with the kenyan police force that's supposed to one day come and this transitional council, did they i mean, is there any hope?

>> ahead for haiti in terms of regaining control of the streets right? >> so this is the mss, the multinational security support that you're referring to, andersen. and as of now, it's on hold until the transitional council so it's able to vote for an acting prime minister or somebody to take charge. that's what the kenyans were asking for, and that's why they held off because they said, right now, nobody is really in charge. all right. so we don't want to send them into total dysfunction. but now it seems like with this transitional council now in place, they are moving towards some sort of stability in trying to establish them mss to come in. what's really interesting is last week, there was a breaking of the seal, if you will, at the port-au-prince airport, it's been shut down to commercial flights for several weeks. we've had to go in through various other means, including helical doctors to figure out how to tell the story but the breaking of the ceo came when a us fixed-wing aircraft touchdown and it was quite symbolic there because it's bringing in officially

some added supplies for the us embassy in port-au-prince, which happens to be in vitro, lumps territory, but it also suggests that there's more to come all right. >> david culver. thank you very much. coming up. we'll return to our breaking news that student protests, standoffs have led to more arrests and columbia university's among schools of his begun suspending student protester there take allergy relief works fast and last a full 24 hours. so dave can be deliverer, dance okay. dave let's be more than our allergies seize the day with zach i thought i knew a lot about are irish roots. i was surprised to learn so many more things. >> the family name 91892. wow that one. here's the boat. they came over on. >> yes. >> wow water would help with this dry spots. that's long disease scott's healthy plus

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you've gone to a lot of campuses across the country. what did you say? what are you hearing? i mean, the scenes are quite amazing it's almost kind of sad. >> so you really have a very small number of protestors. >> i mean, take colombia, colombia is nearly 30,000 students. write about a couple of hundred people at ucla. i was at ucla yesterday. they there have 48,000 students. and again, we're talking about a couple of hundred less than 1%. >> and how many of them are actually students? >> a lot of them are not students, so they conceal their faces entirely. so you can't even tell who's outside agitator and who's an actual student. but it's sad the way that like all the kids deserve to be able to study all the kids deserve a commencement. all the kids is over graduation and a small minority are disrupting disrupting the opportunity for everyone and just violating the rules. >> what would you like to see universities? doing that they are not currently yeah. i mean, it's really, it's sort of bizarre the way the president's are stumbling, i

think, but there's some simple things to do. >> number they do need to re institute law and order like president's sommer said earlier, not with excessive force, but you need to make sure the students understand they got to play by the rules. number when you need to make sure all the students are safe. i've talked enough jewish students to know they feel intimidated and men, it's done there, haven't been consequences. so that's under two. >> if you violate the rules administration shouldn't make concessions to you. >> as we saw happen at columbia in northwestern, there needs to be consequences. again, if you violate the rules, you should be suspended like anyone else. then number three, no full face masking again, i just don't think it's appropriate and it doesn't impinge upon your freedom of speech. you that you shouldn't dress up like an isis fighter, right? like there's no rule that says the school needs to tolerate students. oregon at outside activists dressing factor in al-qaeda. >> we also had an incident where one of the student leaders at columbia talked openly to administrators about

the anxiety, shouldn't live, and they didn't do anything it is hard to understand why they're making concessions rather than consequences. but you're right, like kill the zionists threatening their other classmates. this is not just dangerous for jewish students, although it is, it's also dangerous for all of us like this isn't normal. this isn't what college is supposed to be. and we need to finally get to diminish to remember a small fringe shouldn't ruin the experience for everyone even as we do that, i'll just say, let's keep in mind, we've gotta have fears, hope for these hostages were still being held in gaza, as well as deep compassion for the palestinian civilians who are suffering. >> jonathan greenblatt appreciate you being with us. thank thank you. the news continues. >> the source with kaitlan collins starts now saban, the source tonight. no holds barred. the aftershocks from our extraordinary