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campaign has wasted no time trying to rip the former president. there new and now opponent in the 2024 race with some sharply worded missives. >> strategically using language like sleepy don, stormy, and hush in an oblique reference to the trial in those statements. but despite and all of that, i'm told by both campaign and white house officials will if that there's no formalized effort to monitor the daily developments of the trial. there's no war room, there are no daily memos, there are no individual staffers who are tasked with reporting up to campaign and white house brass on what happens each day. i'm told they're getting their information like the rest of us it's watching the proceedings on tv wealth, they let's actually at the white house. >> thank you very much into our viewers. thanks very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in this room to all our viewers celebrating passover, have a happy passover. >> erin burnett outfront starts right now
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>> i'd front next opening day of trump's trial in between trump and what will be a star witness? michael cohen this is the first witness is starting to testify. the david helped trump's case, plus russia's new it girl, stink television. now fawning over marjorie taylor greene even though she tried but failed to sink american aid to ukraine. here what they are saying tonight about quote-unquote moscow, marjorie, and melania trump now selling more jewelry. is it to help her husband pay his legal fees? >> let's go out front and good evening. >> i'm erin burnett outfront tonight. we begin with trump's trials spilling out of the courtroom on a day when the prosecution and defense laid out their cases for the first time to 12 jurors and the six
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alternates in the room. and it's on this momentous day, the former president trump and his former fixer, michael cohen, are now in a free for all know, it did actually start in the courtroom. >> it was during opening statements, trump was watching as his lawyers were tearing into the key wetness. >> they said, quote, his entire financial livelihood depends on president trump's destruction referring to cohen so that was all in the courtroom. but then after court, when trump walked out and he could speak to the public he said this about cohen what are they going to look at all the lives that gone god did in the last drought. he, that joint line in the last trial well, it's lighter. >> cohen firing back. hey, von expletive in pants, your attacks of me, stink of desperation. >> we're all hoping that you take the stand and your defense was public spat between a key witness and the defendant is remarkable in a court and trump, of course, is under a gag order forbidden to speak about any witnesses in the
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trial. >> but this public brawl breaking out just hours before trump is back in court face-to-face with the judge, juan merchan for hearing on gag order violations he faces fines and of course violations could ultimately put them in jail. >> so this is really serious stuff it comes as witnesses are already taking the stand, the prosecutors first witness was actually trump's longtime personal friend and the former chief of the national enquirer, david he was on the stand today for a brief 40 minutes, and he will be on the stand tomorrow and it's going to be much more extensive. we just barely started their is at the center of the hush money payment to the adult film star stormy daniels at the heart of this case now, trump will be there for all of that testimony as he is required to be every single day of this trial now, we've heard him so many times, complained before the court dates are keeping them off the campaign trail that he has to be in the courtroom and is prevented from being in iowa, whoever wherever it is. except for it has not been true until now. now, he is required to be there and it comes as the stakes are rising, and national
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poll tonight showing biden gaining steam, international poll.& that has trumped concerned this is what took me off and takes me off the campaign trail because i shouldn't be in georgia now i shouldn't be in florida now. i should be a lot of different places right now campaigning of course, is our kristen holmes reports, context matters here on a normal week prior to this trial, trump was only campaigning two days out of seven paula reid is out front live outside the courthouse and where you of course, have been spending the day and i know sitting with you for part of the day, paula taxing nonstop with your sources on those legal teams, what more can you tell us about what happened in that courtroom and this was the first time in the history of our country that a jury was sworn in to hear criminal allegations about a former president of the united states and today, their first day on the job, they heard these
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dueling narrations about events that transpired roughly eight years ago what's going on right here should never be happening. it's a very, very sad de, in america, former president donald trump's criminal trial kicked off today with jurors hearing competing accounts of why a hush money payment was made to adult film actress stormy daniels, just weeks before the 2016 election matthew colangelo laid out the prosecutors theory of the case, which he said is about election fraud, pure and simple he says it all started with a 2015 meeting at trump tower between trump his former attorney, michael cohen and the former publisher of the national enquirer, david the government alleges agreed to use the enquirer to help trump's campaign by buying and suppressing negative stories about him and by amplifying stories that were favorable to him prosecutors allege the
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salacious access hollywood tape on earth just before the 2016 election was significant because it turned the rest of the presidential campaign entirely upside down when you're star, they let you do it. you can do anything, whatever you want, grab but they alleged that once the tape became public trump's campaign went into damage control mode, worried about what an allegation of an bear with adult film star might do trump and cohen arranged a $130,000 payment to keep stormy daniels quiet just two weeks before the election that's the case as to book-keeping, which is a very minor thing in terms of the law. >> and this is what they dry i take me off the trail forum that checks being paid to a lawyer, a lawyer or was a lawyer in the defense is opening statement. >> attorney todd blanche argued his client is innocent.
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>> thank president trump did not commit any crimes and call the 34 counts of falsifying business records against him just pieces of paper. >> blanche directly responded to the allegations of election fraud, saying there's nothing wrong with trying to influence an election. it's called democracy. the defense then attack likely witnesses. daniels, i'm cohen blanche called daniels allegation but a fair sinister and an attempt to embarrass president trump. he then shifted to trump's former lawyer cohen, who he says this quote obsessed with trump, and that cohen's financial livelihood depends on trump's destruction david was the first witness to be called shortly before he took the stand. prosecutors referred to him as a coconspirator for helping trump tried to cover up his alleged affair tomorrow before the jury returns to the courtroom, there'll be a hearing about the gag order in this case. prosecutors alleged
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that trump has violated this gag order over a half a dozen time in this gag order prevents trump from attacking people involved in this case, like witnesses and the jury. he is also barred from attacking family members of the prosecutors and the judge, though we can freely attack the judge or the district attorney, alvin bragg after that hearing, the jury will come back in the courtroom and david we back on stand. >> erin. all right. paula, thank you very much there in lower manhattan and our experts are all here on set together right now. so joey jackson, let me start with you opening statements are crucial in some senses for many jurors, they'll say that's what made up their mind, right? here at the beginning. and then that becomes confirmation on what they heard when the witnesses go. so this matters a lot. >> so let's start with the prosecution. they go first prosecution lawyer goes for 46 minutes. >> so i'm just going to pick one line, but it was 46 minutes. >> one operative line from the transcript, donald trump orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 i'm
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presidential election. then he covered up that criminal conspiracy by lying in his new york business records over and over and over again did they do a good job? >> i thought so for a number of reasons. let's talk about that to your point, aaron, i think opening statements are simply a preview of what the evidence was show, but you have to maintain credibility and giving that indication to the jury. most good lawyers will do with the prosecution did do on the defense, in some measure, which is under promise& over, deliver. and i think what the prosecution's point of view was and they said it in terms of your theory of the case, conspiracy& a cover up now, conspiracy hirsi is not charged. that has legal significance. conspiracy to more people engaging in illegal acts. but it kinda is. and here's why what happens is is that from the prosecution's perspective, this was part of an enterprise orchestrated by trump to interfere with the election. and how did they do that? they did that by virtue
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this payment that was indeed reimbursement says the prosecution and they had nothing to do with a retainer agreement and then they talk about the cover up. right. and so i think to the extent that they put that narrative out there, they being the prosecution, they did their job and wrapping up what they're going to show over and over 34 four times again as to these fraudulent business records and the intent and purpose which was to interfere with the election. and 34 because obviously there was a payment to stormy daniels and that which michael cohen says he he made he did make and then trump this is how that reimbursement was broken up. so we've got every single one of those checks. there's a former prosecutor in the southern district of new york you really understand the players and what's at stake here. so this conspiracy that they're trying to talk about here with trump, they say it all begins with a meeting with michael cohen, donald trump, and david three individuals that we're talking about today before trump even announced the campaign. and they say, in this opening statement that they quote four
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wonder conspiracy at that meeting to influence the presidential election by concealing negative information about mr. trump in order to get him elected and then they continue. and this was interesting. we will never know, and it doesn't matter if this conspiracy was the difference maker in a close election. obviously, this all came to fruition two weeks before the election after that, grab them by the p tape and you had this stormy daniels revelation which we didn't know about at the time because of all of this. >> did they do a good job? >> i think they have their purpose here is to present this roadmap and to present a few themes that the jurors are going to take with them throughout this trial. frankly, i think the research shows that jurors really don't retain much more than those few central themes. so they need to hit those particular theme there's over and over again. i think the prosecution had to explain the why the what is really not in question, both sides agreed to some of the
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basic facts of what happened here, but they had to explain the why and they did that effectively. i think 46 minutes was probably too long. i doubt they had the german pension yeah for that long and they probably could have done it in half that time. >> well, and 46 minutes does sound like a long time, you know, when you tell people were giving your best man speech or whatever, you a shorter is better. >> in this case though, aaron, i mean, 46 minutes. i wish i could keep my openings 2406 a lot to get out there. i think it was short in the context of what they had let's place. >> all right. so jeremy, you were there. so what was trump's reaction during the prosecution's opening statement and said this point about being 46 minutes, how engaged was he throughout? >> what was most interesting with the premise former president was just how much he was not reacting to what was going on we had the prosecutor, we had matthew clan jaw. he was bringing up a lot of illicit things that trump is alleged to have done i brought up the affair with a playboy playmate, the affair with a porn star. he brought up the access hollywood tape and throughout all of that, trump was not reacting. it was sitting back in his chair his eyes would close to
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time to time and i think it's felt like he was making a point not to react. you would pass notes to his attorneys. he was there a sort of a note passing thing. i'm particularly when the access hollywood tape we noted him had blanche we're sending notes between the two of them but it's obviously different than what we've seen trump in other courtrooms and even earlier in this case that morning in the morning we had we talked about what the prosecutors would be able to bring into evidence if trump testifies. and when the judge said that he would allow him to ask about the civil fraud verdict that came earlier this year. trump shook his head at that just before the jury came in with the jury in there today as these things were being brought up, was very stoic, interesting. >> so it's almost as if he really does know that is the audience now that matters, it seems it's certainly seems like just fast. >> so stacy, you criminal defense attorney, and of course, you were a former contestant and the apprentice, so you i mean, you've got both a personal and a professional perspective on this. what did you see on the process? execution? yes. so i saw it was a smooth and solid opening statement, but i think they missed a really big opportunity
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michael cohen is the elephant in the room in this case. and he's got prior conviction. he pled guilty in 2018 in federal court, among other charges two illegal campaign contributions. and he said out loud in court, i did this at the direction of donald trump. and that admission is the key of this case. and i think the prosecution should have honed down on that here and brought out to the jury. they said to them here all the bad things michael cohen did where we're letting you know now. but you're going to see at the end of the case that you should credit his testimony in this courtroom. and what they missed out doing is saying to the jury people don't plead guilty to things they didn't do so, michael cohen is going to bleed believable. he took a three-year jail sentence for this alleged scheme. trump is saying it's an alleged scheme. michael cohen was saying it happened they could have
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tackled the beast because trump is going to come out and say immediately, michael, mike trump's lawyers. and when michael cohen gets on the stand and cross examination, you're a liar. you're convicted liar. you've lied over and over again. and the de needs to have michael cohen say, which he will it's part of his testimony. i may have lived at other times, but i'm not lying here because i pled guilty to doing this. i didn't even go to trial. that's why michelle about that the one point i would make to that is i think they strategically in my view, avoided that and i think there were two but i think they were in that room fighting should we should we i think the first reason is you don't want to put over upon his testimony. yes, he's the elephant in the room, but we're going to prove this case not because of michael cohen. and the second thing is i think there'll be able to prove it up with other width this is with text messages, with emails, with audios that are not relying upon him. so he doesn't down
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the center rack, so i think they strategically wanted to pivot such that it's not all about michael collins when he is ravaged, which he will be in his perjurer, you lied to congress, you lied here. they're gonna be like so what about email? what about the texas that's right. what about the audit? what about everything else? that's why we're not relying upon which it's gonna be fascinating, which, what else they do bring to your point. and michael cohen, when i've talked to me, he says they do have all that other information that he views himself in a sense as additive, not not the only way that you would get to this conclusion they do, but i'm sorry. >> i was just going to say that the the linchpin in this case are the payments to michael cohen as an attorney. and those clips we just had a trump's press conference today when he came out of chord, he's previewing to the world. this is what my attorneys are going to be saying. this is all worked out behind the scenes before we go to court, he's saying michael cohen was an attorney. it was very odd that he said that today, michael cohn, it was an attorney he submitted in an invoice and they put the payment to him on
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the books. when he said i think he was referring to the trump organization so he could distance himself like he knew nothing about this. the problem with donald trump doing that is and this is in the indictment and the da said this in their opening the statement, donald trump signed the checks to michael cohen and allegedly they came out of the donald j. trump account. so the whole press conference was a bit of a i think a pr disaster because it's going to hurt him in court eventually. and so the jury and he came out, he does that eight minutes, jeremy talking, of course, in the courtroom what else did to you? i stopped you. i know you mentioned that he was passing notes to his attorneys at time that he was engaged you know, what we're what moore's interactions like with his team and with the jury yeah. >> it's interesting because when his attorney, todd blanche went to speak, trump's demeanor, it's shifted. he turned his chair, he faced he faced him, which made him faced the jury, and he watched plants as he went through his opening statement. i think the most
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interesting thing with trump today that was when david took the stand because trump, he was sitting very motionless expressionless, really watching david closely. and there was a light moment in his testimony where he was asked to recount the last four digits if a cell phone number it's for record keeping purposes, but he fumbled with the answer and it caused a laugh. david, he led out this very big laugh that caused laughter in the courtroom and trump is attorneys were laughing, but he was sitting there expression, let's just stone face forward, looking at the witness. >> so i'll give you a final word on that. what do you make of that mean he is well aware now that everything went i'm sure he's well aware of every comment people make on twitter about what he did, whether he fell asleep or anything like that. >> this seems to be that he is when he turns to the jury, what he looks like very calculated. yeah. i mean, if his lawyers are doing their job correctly, they are coaching him on that part of it and they are doing everything they can to tried to control his demeanor, his facial expressions, his utterances has no passing all of that stuff in the courtroom.
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there. they will not be able to do that outside of the courtroom, but they're doing the best job they can to control that within the courtroom, right. >> and clearly, he's decided to his interests for now. right. if he gets to be, quote, unquote controlled. >> all right, thanks. all of you very much next trial once said the publisher of the national enquirer, david should, when a pulitzer for his work. >> next, we have a special report in the long relationship between trump and which is so central at this hour. also outfront packers, former close colleague, what he says market will do on the stand, tamara was marjorie taylor greene getting the celebrity treatment in russia? but, they are saying tonight about quote, moscow, marjorie, a new pictures tonight from yell university where hundreds of pro-palestinian protesters are gathering these matters that's a protests are now getting increasingly intense and disruptive as we see them this hour erin burnett outfront brought to you by, etc say big on mother's day, gifts etsy
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over v0 to three-to-one, three-to-one. today tonight you should be president. people love you. >> that is what david, the former national enquirer chairman, says he used to tell donald trump every time he'd see him years before trump ran
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for office now, packers being called a coconspirator by the prosecutor and finds himself staring at his longtime friend, donald trump from across the courtroom as a first witness in the hush money trial called by the prosecution. tom foreman is outfront them a decades-long relationship between and trump that benefited both men i've been joe's friends from back in the 90s more than fellow new yorkers on a quest for power and fame david and donald trump were for decades a match made in media. heaven so how did it all come to this? i don't think they even paid any money to that tabloid. okay. >> i don't think we made a payment to that tablet nobody except for me would be looked at like yes nobody for a long time, the relationship was good for both menn trump gave national enquirer or access to his fame, the tabloid gave him headlines. trump catches russia's white house spy. trump must build the wall.
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trump takes charge arge, the paper gave him. it's first endorsement ever for president trump. returned the favor. i've always said, why didn't the national enquirer get the pulitzer prize for edwards & oj simpson, and all of these things with slashing and burning enthusiasm relentlessly posted false stories about political foes while reportedly suppressing embarrassments for trump, like the time first lady melania appear to slap his hand away on a foreign trip, but those who studied the two men did not see an equal relationship really looked up to donald trump still does and he put his very important magazines to work for donald trump's interests. then some big names had went too far in 2019 business mogul jeff bezos, for example, said threatened to release compromising photos of him unless bezos publicly refuted claims claims that the enquirer was improperly playing
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politics. lawyers called it negotiation it's absolutely is that extortion and not blackmail? >> but friendship with trump has already unraveling head himself admitted to prosecutors his clandestine efforts to help trump. >> he struck a deal admitting involvement in the alleged hush-money scheme. and now the two old friends are reportedly not speaking at all. aaron. >> all right. thank you very much. i'll front now it's to zai come. he was a senior communications executive at ami, worked closely with so still this is so interesting is thomas saying now reports or they're not speaking. >> but was called of course, by the prosecution is their first way fitness, but the context friends with trump for decades and today he did say, hi to trump's table as he left the stand what do you read into all this? >> what do you read into that when it comes to crucial testimony on trump?
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>> well, david is very unique individuals that he focuses on what is good for david he fully recognized that the eyes of the media, we're on him, any interaction with trump while he was testifying? and so he couldn't help himself knowing him not to say hi, and smile at trump and leave the ball in trump's court to respond, which he didn't no, he did and that that in and of itself is fascinating. >> so you say, just as the context that is so crucial here in terms of what packers is going to be saying on the stand tomorrow, and trump, you've described to us as quote, unquote clones tell me what you mean. so well, they operate very similarly. just says, trump has been renowned as we saw during his eight years, unfortunately, as president, he pitted a lot of his colleagues in a circle against each other. he would say one thing to one and say one thing to the other
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and see how they communicated with david operates the same way. i don't want to use the word bullet, but that's totally does apply to how he operates and as his communications head, i was there for a lot of those game-playing that went down so it's no surprise to me clearly that these guys have been friends forever they feed off of each other. they offer each other benefits that wouldn't occur. and then the other relationship and now we have a situation where david made a deal with the southern district of new york to testify so that he would not be held responsible for the role that the enquirer and my titles as a whole played during the 2016 election and helping trump get elected, right? >> so as we're trying to, obviously, he had just started today. it was really just a few minutes of testimony. it's really going to be tomorrow. >> the prosecution in the brief time today, brought up a couple of items with still and i
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don't know if you saw these, but i'm curious what you think they established that he had an email accounts. so good that he used for work that he didn't tell his assistant the devout and they went through a series of phone numbers to see if he recalled them, including some of his own with a couple of errors he did. >> when you take a look at just those two little threads that they started to put out there. what are you expected to from packer tomorrow? >> well, i think he is going to actually take the unveil the magic, like the wizard of oz. let me take you behind the curtain and show you what went down once again due to the deal he made, which i'm aware of the specifics, but however, can only project with the southern district of new york to avoid being held responsible. he's going to tell everything. and as much as people were predicting that michael cohen testimony is going to be really influential. i think once people really see the extent that david use the properties
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of american media, not, not just the enquirer, but the ami owned a lot of other tabloid titles. not only that they own distribution and positioning at newsstands so you can imagine if you're commuter& you're walking through grand central reported authorities or an airport and all the magazines are aligned up. and you're going to see the image. whatever decided to put on that cover. and as he said today, the cover was totally his responsibility and i sat through many of those cover meetings and i can definitely say that was accurate. but the impact visually, not that people are going to pick up. the magazine and read and that's why the cover is so important. but if you walk by and you see six or seven covers in a row, that basically reinforce the same message that is on the enquirer as the lead. it doesn't matter if you are pro or con that image is going went to resonate with you
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somehow. that is the power that david offer trump to squash stories that he would feel were negative towards him or give him a heads up. and that's where we see what happened with stormy daniels and karen mcdougal& a lot of other stories as a result of that. >> that's really fascinating what you just laid out about the psychology hello, g of the supermarket. i think we can all relate when you walk, you do see the same thing or the lack of the same thing what that does to our psyche, whatever you think about a story. let's do thank you very much. i appreciate it. i'm so glad to talk to you well, thank you for having erin and i just want to say one thing as who celebrate passover tonight, i want to make sure everyone knows we are keeping the hostages from hamas in our hearts. >> and hope that they are safe all right, let's do thank you very much next russian state television going all in on what unquote moscow marjorie, keeping praised on the republican congresswoman for siding with putin. let's jump in. during questions today
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trying to derail it. leader in former republican congressman ken buck, to give her the nickname of moscow marjorie on outfront and moscow, marjorie is focused now on this ukraine issue and getting are talking points from the kremlin legit. >> it they a little green congresswoman marjorie taylor greene, who new york proposed already dressed in a huge shank ahead with a star officially putting her in the ranks of kremlin agents called speaker johnson, a democrat, elected by ukraine but you, reynoso said that johnson betrayed not only republicans, but the whole of the usa. >> nonetheless, the us military aid will be bigger this year compared to the past two years. and of course, there was nothing good in that russia's foreign minister going even further threatening nuclear confrontation. but he was epic
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western as a teetering dangerously the on the brink of a direct military clash between nuclear powers fraught with catastrophic consequences, particularly that it's the troika of western nuclear states that are among key sponsors of the criminal kyiv regime ukraine is in desperate need of lots of artillery ammo. >> key of says badly outgassed and by vladimir putin's forces but also air defense missiles with russia drastically escalating its missile and drone campaign against ukraine, cities, and power plants ukraine's president saying he's grateful for the aid, but the weapons need to come fast. >> they just music, politician either time between political decisions and inflicting real defeats on the enemy at the front. between the approval of the aid package and providing the strength to our guys. >> this should be reduced to a minimum and ukraine needs help.
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us aid will arrive quickly and change the tune on the battlefield allowing key of spores has to stop further russian advances fraud, of course, you're in kyiv and you have been there through this as ukraine has been just desperately hoping and saying their deed for us assistance now for months and months. >> now it looks like they can finally get it what about that point? so lenski was making, does it come fast enough? is this too little too late well, certainly it's no secret for the ukrainians that right now the russians definitely are pressing aaron. >> it's happening on the eastern front is happening on the southern front as well. if you look at the eastern front, for instance, there's that town of chasiv yar, which is near bakhmut, which of course we reported on i'm so much in the past years, really with a russians, are have entered. that's how and actually already in are fighting for it right now. so certainly for the ukrainians is a desperate situation right now but none of these russian gains have been strategic yet. they don't have any main towns yet. they don't have any larger cities yet. and
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the ukrainians do say, if that aid comes in when that aid comes in they believe that they're going to be able to hold the russians up and possibly reverse the tide and maybe even launch a counter offensive of their own. aaron all right. >> fred pleitgen. thank you so much. live in kyiv, as we said tonight, and right now, i want to show you some live pictures from columbia university pro-palestinian protesters are gathering right now as i speak tensions have been boiling over on some college campuses in this country over the israel-hamas war. protesters camping out intense, they're at yale, nearly 50 students were arrested late today isabel rosales is out front from yale tonight i was assaulted in the middle of campus. this is an actual crisis and an imminent threat tensions boiling over at columbia and other top universities like mit, nyu, and yale, where at least 45 protesters camping on college grounds were arrested early
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this morning by the yale university police department, yale university, releasing a statement saying the university would not tolerate behavior that interfered with university operations are threatened, harassed, or intimidated, others. >> the arrest on college campuses coming as verbal confrontations between pro-palestinian protesters and jewish students because they could not going to have escalated into physical ones don't like me. my friend on saturday night was full-blown assaulted. he had he was shoved around my friend. >> had it was a flag stolen out of his hands and rock-star on his face, columbia monday, resorting to canceling in-person classes and calling for a reset to de-escalate the rancor. >> a rabbi linked to the university urging jewish students to stay a home, saying the events have made it clear that columbia university's public safety and the nypd cannot guarantee jewish
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students safety. the hostilities or columbia growling for months alongside peaceful protesters camping in this tent city, the encampment and the fear drawing criticism from business leaders like new england page drew its owner, robert kraft, who says, he will no longer be donating to his alma mater though he financially supports the jewish hilal on campus. >> i just can't believe in new york city at columbia university jewish students hi, are afraid to go to classes the rebuke coming amid calls for action from congressional leaders who toured the columbia campus today. that is unacceptable for a university that is unacceptable for an academic institution. and all universities have an obligation to maintain the safety and security of their students from all backgrounds. >> we went to the nypd saying they're prepared to enter columbia's campus if they're
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called in and pointing to the heavy police presence just outside columbia skates. any kind of violence is not gonna be tolerated and that includes harassment an error. >> let me give you a sense of the demonstrators movement on campus that we've seen throughout the day of course, starting early this morning, we saw those tensions just reaching a boiling point between demonstrators and police officers who asked them to disperse. and those that didn't at a university plaza, just under fifth if p of them were arrested, now, that area just in that direction has been blocked off with yellow tape. they are now gathered here in front of the library chanting and singing all right. >> isabel, thank you very much. as i said, on the campus of yale tonight. and next, melania trump back to selling jewelry. this time a necklace a couple of hundred dollars what's it four? plus the trump courtroom sketch artist who drew this sketch is next, and she's going to tell you why this
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about hormone free visa and enjoy more, not lashesgia statel in atlanta. this is cnn tonight, donald trump, ignoring questions about melannie as he made his way into court thank you very much, mr. trump hearing to access hollywood. are you against with a all right and melannie is former chief of staff and elizabeth williams, the sketch artists in the courtroom with donald trump today as she has been other days, we've had the honor speaking to elizabeth stefani. let me start with you on the the core of this, the stormy daniels situation, you spent a lot of time with melania when the news was breaking about stormy and you said this was very embarrassing for her? that
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was before we found out today that david has a private email account, but could have even more embarrassing details about donald trump himself is she prepared for that right now i can guarantee she is watching every ounce of coverage. >> and with that came out, it peaked your interest millennia is very much about proof shope and so if some more damaging stuff should come out that she didn't know about because of course her husband continues to deny all of the details here about stormy, especially if some other stuff comes out. i think that'll be really interesting to watch because you can't really dispute things that are in writing. and that's something she always paid quite a bit of attention to. was was proof. >> right. and we don't know, for example, what's in that email account that was one thing dangled out by the prosecution when it comes to david, though, elizabeth, you were in the room today and you are watching when he took the stand, if trump is there, you actually brought your as i say, first draft if history your drawing and it shows trump's
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avid focus here on david absolutely. >> trump we can hold it up while you're while you're talking. yeah. david came into the courtroom donald trump looked at him as he walked in and walked in-between the defense table in the prosecution table and took the stand. and from that time, he was raised are focused on the stir and indeed, you can see he's sitting up on almost on the edge of edges, see if we can see are and i know where as the other attorneys sitting behind very, very focused on this, which was a complete contrast to what he was doing in the morning where he had its eyes closed during the judge's ruling, and the judge's instruction to the jury so it's it's quite an interesting comparison, contrast to the day. so that's why when i saw this& are very
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important witness. >> he is a stefanie saying, i mean, central to this easy when you see this, what it's really about the relationship between between men here. >> so when we there's another sketch of years, i wanted to show today. >> i mean, this one was with but there was another one that you drew. were trump's eyes are closed and you gosh, i feel like i'm looking at make me think of mooc here what was happening in that moment? >> well, what was happening was the judge was explaining his ruling on the sandoval order and whether it was what terms of whether testimony and other cases allowed in questioning of trump exact ecoli and trump had his eyes closed, his head would sort of tilt back and forth. however, then i would notice that all of a sudden he would hear something and he would snap to attention, take a piece, paper, writes something down in hand it to todd blanche. so he really wasn't asleep, but he had his eyes
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close and he did the same thing. through the opening statement of the prosecutor he closed his eyes the entire time. >> so just seeing that seems to be from what you're saying a way that he's focusing i guess. >> but then when he then his win, his attorney gibbs, his opening statement he sits bag looks towards the jury he has a very different body language that point in time. so i see that i've seen that a lot with defendants defendants will tend to not want to look at the prosecutor when they make an opening statement. that's very typical. goal. and when their attorney makes the opening statement, they will then look towards them. but this was just so dramatic with i've never seen anybody close their eyes for all this period of time ever. and i've been doing dash off a note clearly paying attention. >> and you say melania, paying attention to this just.
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>> to sort of juxtaposition of how they're spending their time. >> she's out. now selling a new jewelry line, a necklace for mother's day, $245. >> she calls it quote, her love and gratitude nothing on the websites suggests that the money raised is going to charity or anything like that do. you have any sense what she could be selling the jewelry four i mean, is this just money for ourself money to raise money for the legal defense where trump's been trying left and right and center to raise money. what's it for? >> so i try not to laugh at the thought that she would be raising money for his defense. i'm so sorry. that's absolutely not going to be at number one. they're using so many people who are contributing to the president and to his president or the former president and to his campaign for those things. but she's doing it for herself had i've been advising her, i would have said a couple of things. number one, this is the first day of your husband's criminal trial and you're going to hawk some jewelry?
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probably not a very good look. and then yeah, i would have at least said, hey, are we going to give this to some kind of an, an initiative for children or her mother did just pass. so perhaps absolute would go to some kind of whether it's also emerged cancers, something some proceeds, but instead it just says here you go by this for $245 and then another thing that you had said at the beginning of the your segment is that she finds this to be disgusting trial or i forget what the word is. but if that were the case, she would at least put that out on x. she would say something melania trump absolutely does what she wants to do. and if she felt this was a disgrace, she would say something. >> all right. well, thank you both very much. i appreciate it. good to see you next. a politician seeking the presidency accused of making a hush money payment meant to a woman to secure her silence for their affair wait, are we leading our show? oh, wait. no, no, this is a totally different case from back in the past.
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tonight, a political star has a fair and tries to cover it up jessica dean is out front donald trump claims the prosecution against him in the hush money trial is unprecedented assault nothing like this has ever happened before. it's never been anything like it while it is true, trump is the first former president to stand trial against criminal charges another well-known politician had a similar story play out in the past. >> john edwards obviously was prosecuted for the same thing and justice department failed acquitted on one and miss trial and the others, but they decided not to proceed. >> in 2011, then failed democratic presidential candidate john edwards faced as six count indictment for allegedly accepting and using campaign contributions to cover up an extra affair and hide his mistress. and their child from the public edwards ran for president while i do not believe i did anything illegal
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or ever thought i was doing anything illegal i did an awful, awful lot that was wrong the jury acquitted edwards on one charge and split on the other five leading the justice department to ultimately dropped the case. well, the election interference and it's got to stop. it's a third world country. >> trump is charged with 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal payments made to hide an alleged affair with an adult film star and influence the 2016 an election. trump denies the affair and has pleaded not guilty, but trump's former attorney, michael cohen, swore under oath that he made the payments in order to affect the outcome of the election cohen though, was convicted of perjury in a separate case. the edwards case had its own star witness, a close aide to the former senator who testified to helping edwards keep that a fair secret, but prosecutors do not prove their claim. the cover up was about the election. the woman with whom edwards had the affair, real hunter told cnn, edwards did
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not want the truth to hurt his wife the issues four internal family issues, trying to hide it from elizabeth, i try not to hurt anybody. he didn't want to hurt elizabeth. or his family. >> a key difference could be the timing of the alleged affairs and subsequent payoffs which might help spell out the payments intent. >> edwards affair occurred during the 2008 campaign with at least one payment happening after the election was over long after edwards dropped out of the race in trump's case, the alleged affair happened in 2006, years before he ran for president payoff is alleged to have been made just two weeks before the 2016 election persecution. >> and this is about me, but perhaps the starkest difference is how each man reacted to their cases there is no one else responsible for my sans none of the people who came to court and testified are