destroying property is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. lama i am a student here. i am an english major. please, don't fail us. please. dozens of students have been detained but demonstrations are continuing at dozens of universities across the country. we willjoin our correspondence live. john swinney looks set to become scotland's next first minister after kate forbes says she won't stand for the snp leadership. another day in court for donald trump as prosecutors argue again the former president should be held in contempt. and the great ape just got greater. orangutans are spotted using, the same medicinal plants, as humans.

hello, i'm matthew amroliwala, welcome to verified live. president biden speaking the last hour and a tv address after police in los angeles cleared a protest camp at the university of california. joe biden said the rule of law had to be respected by those who opposed the war in gaza. shots being fired. these are the dramatic scenes where officers invite geared to send it on the camp, police fired flares and stun grenades. dozens of students have been detained. demonstrations against the war in gaza are continuing at dozens of universities right across the united states. the president warned there was no place for violence, president warned there was no place forviolence, racism president warned there was no place for violence, racism or hate speech

in the country including on student campuses. in fact, peaceful protest is in the best tradition of how americans respond to consequential issues, but, but neither are we a lawless country. we're a civil society and order must prevail. throughout our history, we've often faced moments like this because we are a big, diverse, free—thinking and freedom—loving nation. and moments like this are always those who rush in to score political points. but this isn't a moment for politics. it's a moment for clarity. so let me be clear. peaceful protest in america. violent protest is not protected. peaceful protest is. it's against the law of violence occurs. destroying property is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations. none of this is a peaceful protest.

threatening people, intimidating people, instilling fear in people is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. dissent is essential to democracy. but dissent must never lead to disorder or to denying the rights of others so students can finish the semester and their college education. that was joe biden that wasjoe biden speaking from the white house and the last hour we talked to our correspondent in a moment or two but let's speak first two are guests. we can now speak to dolores quintana, a reporter at the santa monica mirror who has been covering the ucla protests. welcome and give me an ideal welcome and give me an idea i know you were there overnight, what was it like? , , . ., it like? hi, yes, i have to say last niuht it like? hi, yes, i have to say last night and — it like? hi, yes, i have to say last night and yes _ it like? hi, yes, i have to say last night and yes i — it like? hi, yes, i have to say last night and yes i was _ it like? hi, yes, i have to say last night and yes i was there - it like? hi, yes, i have to say last| night and yes i was there all night until they started clearing the camp and then i had to leave because they were telling people that they would be arrested. it was a lot calmer thanit

be arrested. it was a lot calmer than it was the previous night, the previous night was very frightening. i will be very honest. even as a reporter, none of us were say. i reporter, none of us were say. i spoke to a democratic strategist a little earlier on the programme who talked about anarchists, many of these protests —— at many of these protests, give me your assessment of those people in the encampment there at ucla. the those people in the encampment there at ucla. , ., , ., at ucla. the people at the encampment _ at ucla. the people at the encampment who - at ucla. the people at the encampment who are - at ucla. the people at the - encampment who are students, they actually are very nice. they are very smart, very organised. would i call them wild anarchists? not at all. as a matter of fact, they had had a media check—in at their camp from the very first day. so the recognise the importance of being able to talk to the media in a rational and engaging way. i think

there may be a thought that somehow there may be a thought that somehow the violence that happened last night was the fault of the protest servers who were students and it absolutely was not —— the fall of the protesters. indie absolutely was not -- the fall of the protesters.— absolutely was not -- the fall of the protesters. absolutely was not -- the fall of the rotesters. ~ , ., ., ., the protesters. we spoke to lou not heard from — the protesters. we spoke to lou not heard from joe _ the protesters. we spoke to lou not heard from joe biden _ the protesters. we spoke to lou not heard from joe biden saying - the protesters. we spoke to lou not heard from joe biden saying there i heard from joe biden saying there would be no change in his administration's policy, do you think there is any essential of a change in the university's policy the protesters are demanding the universities divest from links with israel, you get any sense of movement and universities on the key demand? i movement and universities on the key demand? ~ , , ., demand? i think because of the violence that _ demand? i think because of the violence that happened, - demand? i think because of the violence that happened, they i demand? i think because of the l violence that happened, they are going to have to do an investigation. the university of california police stood by and did nothing when reporters were being assaulted, when the students of the school were being assaulted by

people who clearly did not go to ucla. i think it may be a slow process, but i also think that the students are not going to give up. even though the encampment has been taken down, i would not count them out. . , taken down, i would not count them out. ., , , , out. that is exactly my final question — out. that is exactly my final question that _ out. that is exactly my final question that i _ out. that is exactly my final question that i was - out. that is exactly my final question that i was going i out. that is exactly my final question that i was going to out. that is exactly my final - question that i was going to ask yoursense question that i was going to ask your sense of whether this is the end of the protests orjust a pause? to get the sense that those protesters will be back and are those police likely to stay in large numbers on site in campus? i those police likely to stay in large numbers on site in campus? i think ma be in numbers on site in campus? i think maybe in the _ numbers on site in campus? i think maybe in the coming _ numbers on site in campus? i think maybe in the coming days, - numbers on site in campus? i think maybe in the coming days, right. maybe in the coming days, right now ucla's campus is actually shut down for thursday and friday. they are only doing remote classes and they have told students to stay away from the quad. i believe hundred and 32 students were arrested according to abc news which is a fraction of the people who were actually in the

encampment, in my belief. the population was liquid. but i do not think that is even half of the people who were actually there. so i think that this may be a summer of protest in the united states to try and get colleges to divest from, in particular, black rock which is a private equity company that the students believe, basically are contributing their money is contributing their money is contributing to the war in palestine and gaza. i contributing to the war in palestine and gaza. . ., . and gaza. i have to leave it there. sor to and gaza. i have to leave it there. sorry to cut _ and gaza. i have to leave it there. sorry to cut across _ and gaza. i have to leave it there. sorry to cut across you _ and gaza. i have to leave it there. sorry to cut across you but - and gaza. i have to leave it there. sorry to cut across you but thank. sorry to cut across you but thank you for giving us that assessment there of those events overnight at ucla and perhaps what we are likely to see in the coming weeks. our north america correspondent nomia iqbaljoins us now from new york. of course we saw this protests at columbia university about 36 hours

ago and you were listening to the president, what was your assessment of what we heard from joe biden? i think there was some pressure on president biden to speak out. the last time we had heard from him was april the 22nd about the campus protests and many have felt his comments were pretty vague. it is try to strike a balance. he said that students had the right to peaceful protests, but it was about the unlawfulness, the unlawful nature of some of the protests. obviously meets and it's about what he said come he said people have the right to protest, but not cause chaos. his point is the scent, not disorder. we understand a senior white house official had said that the president wanted to speak out this morning given what has happened and given the number of violent incidents over the past 48 hours. we have seen all of those tents being cleared from ucla, we have seen

those scenes of violence on the west coast. it has been more than 1000 arrests as well. so far. but, for the president, it is complicated because there are dueling domestic and foreign policies here. which have merged into one now and he said at the end of the conference at the end of the speech that he was knocking to change his policy in the middle east. in some but he's also trying to balance as well. but i think there was pressure on him to say something. i'm not sure that he will have pleased both sides in what he said. ilil" will have pleased both sides in what he said. , ., , ., ., will have pleased both sides in what he said. , ., , ., , he said. our previous gas to spoke about, he said. our previous gas to spoke about. she — he said. our previous gas to spoke about, she anticipates _ he said. our previous gas to spoke about, she anticipates a _ he said. our previous gas to spoke about, she anticipates a summer. he said. our previous gas to spoke | about, she anticipates a summer of protests. that is potentially problematic for a president in the months leading up to a presidential election —— our previous guest. i election —— our previous guest. 1 think at best president biden is

hoping that this fizzles away and that people forget. when i ask students, does this affect your vote, they do not want to be drawn into that. i think at worst, it continues for president biden he is already heckled a lot of events he goes to buy pro—palestinian supporters, but we are about six months away from the election, we will have to see just how much the spectres in to the voting of young people. remember, he needs them on side. he wants to build a coalition of young voters to help them secure an election victory in november. live in new york for us, thank you. let's turn away from what we have been seen on university campuses in america and let's turn to politics here. john swinney looks set to be the next leader of the scottish national party and therefore the next first minister of scotland, after the woman many thought would be his main rival, fellow msp kate forbes, said she would not stand and would support him instead. the vacancy arose after humza yousaf resigned, which followed him ending his coalition deal

with the scottish greens here's mr swinney, announcing his candidacy earlier today. my message is crisp and simple. i'm stepping forward to bring the snp together, to deliver economic growth and socialjustice, to deliver the very best future for everyone in a modern, dynamic, diverse scotland. i want to unite the snp and unite scotland for independence. i invite everyone in the snp and in our country who wants tojoin me in thatjourney to do so now. thank you very much. applause i am joined by our scotland political correspondent david henderson, who is now at the holyrood garden lobby. david, your assessment in terms of what we have just heard, presumably he is now going to actually go forward, unchallenged. it he is now going to actually go forward, unchallenged. it certainly looks like that. _ forward, unchallenged. it certainly looks like that. what _ forward, unchallenged. it certainly looks like that. what a _ forward, unchallenged. it certainly looks like that. what a difference l forward, unchallenged. it certainly| looks like that. what a difference a day makes. even yesterday, people

were wondering who, if anyone, is going to step four to seek the nomination to become snp leader and the next first minister of scotland. because it had not happened then, yet now, we are in a situation where it is, in effect, all over, bar the shouting. john swinney, of course, has been working away behind the seeds of a recent days putting together a strong team of supporters in the scottish cabinet here and among senior mps at westminster. of course, then he launched that barn storming event in edinburgh today, launching his campaign, setting out why he wanted the top job. that seemed to go down pretty well and he was pretty crafty with his tactics as well because in addition to saying what he wanted the job, he said he also wanted to reach out to his main rivalfor thejob, kate forbes. he said he was impressed by her and he wanted her working with him at the top level of government.

so, immediately, he gave her a reason for not standing. and within just a matter of a few hours we got a statement from kate forbes confirming that she supported john swinney, that she would not stand and that she supported his plans to return, snp, in herwords, to the government in the mainstream. so in effect, he basically had neutralised his opponent and, sewn up the leadership all in one day. we heard that clip there. _ leadership all in one day. we heard that clip there. he _ leadership all in one day. we heard that clip there. he talked _ leadership all in one day. we heard that clip there. he talked about - leadership all in one day. we heard that clip there. he talked about his| that clip there. he talked about his longer—term objectives, scottish independence, but he has a more immediate task and that is simply, a rebuild, has he not?— immediate task and that is simply, a rebuild, has he not? he has. the snp have been through _ rebuild, has he not? he has. the snp have been through a _ rebuild, has he not? he has. the snp have been through a very _ rebuild, has he not? he has. the snp have been through a very tough - rebuild, has he not? he has. the snp have been through a very tough time | have been through a very tough time over recent months and there is a widespread feeling here at holyrood that they have lost the weight that they were focusing on the wrong sort of issues, they assume too much focus on controversial identity politics like the gender issue and

not enough on issues like the economy, on health care and education and so on. sojohn swinney is certainly looking to press the reset button. between now and actually taking office though, there are a series of steps. it is potentially possible that someone may come forward and challenge him, nominations do not close until monday. so there could be somebody from the snp grassroots who could come forward and say, that they are not happy with the prospect of a coronation, that they want a contest instead. it may be a disgruntled backbencher here at holyrood. who knows? will have to be in c., if by lunchtime on monday, there is no one looking to challengejohn swinney, and we will see a sequence of events complete he will be declared the winner of the contest and humza yousaf, the current first minister would look to the king and stepped on formally. at that point in time, john swinney would seek approval from the parliament to be approved as first minister and then people get on with the business of

government. and i will come as a real relief to many of the snp who want to avoid at whatever cost the prospect of a tough and challenging campaign in this general election year. campaign in this general election ear. . ~' campaign in this general election ear. . ~ , ., y campaign in this general election ear. . ~ , . campaign in this general election ear. . ~' y . ., campaign in this general election ear. . , . ., . year. thank you very much for that. thank yon — year. thank you very much for that. thank yon we _ year. thank you very much for that. thank you. we will _ year. thank you very much for that. thank you. we will be _ year. thank you very much for that. thank you. we will be live - year. thank you very much for that. thank you. we will be live in - thank you. we will be live in the work next for the latest on the donald trump trial. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news.

prosecutors have accused donald trump of willfully and that violating a gag order imposed by newarkjudge to protect participants in that hush money trial that is currently going on. donald trump is accused of falsifying business records in this trial to reimburse his lawyer, michael cohen for hundred and $30,000 payment made to the adult film star stormy daniels days ahead of the 2016 election against hillary clinton. let's go

lie to her north america correspondent. let's speak to our north america correspondent nada tawfik who's in new york. we will come to the gag order in a moment or two but in terms of the evidence the court has been hearing, take me through that. keith davidson. — take me through that. keith davidson, stormy _ take me through that. keith davidson, stormy daniels'sl take me through that. keith - davidson, stormy daniels's lawyer who arrange that hush money payment at the centre of this case has been back on the stand and he really took juror�*s right back to election night sharing a text message she had with one of the editors at the tabloid, the national enquirer, asking, what have we done when it became clear that donald trump was winning. explaining that text message, he said that there was an understanding that their efforts had health donald trump ozment campaign. remember, thatis trump ozment campaign. remember, that is a key argument here from prosecutors. that this hush money was paid to influence the election, illegally. donald trump ozment defence team has said that that money was paid to protect his family

and his brand. keith davidson then went into the discussions with michael cohen when there were crisis talks when the wall straightjournal published, eventually, the stories of this hush money payments. he discussed how he and michael cohen tried to put out a denial by stormy daniels. stormy daniels ultimately rescinded that denial. so a lot of insight into how those talks went. i insight into how those talks went. i mentioned there the gag order. again, prosecutors claimed the former president breaching that gag order. how close are we actually getting to potentialjail time here? remember, prosecutors brought up fees for additional alleged violations before donald trump was held in contempt of court. of course, at that moment, thejudge warning thatjail time may be a necessary punishment, prosecutors make clear in this hearing that they are not seeking jail timejust

make clear in this hearing that they are not seeking jail time just yet. but, there was an interesting moment when donald trump's lawyers, again try to cling to the judge that he was being silenced. saying everyone else is allowed to discuss this case as they please. to which the judge reminded them that they were forgetting a serious point, that donald trump is the defendant in this case. and as such, is limited to speak aboutjurors, potential witnesses, by this gag order. but the fact is, the judge said, witnesses, by this gag order. but the fact is, thejudge said, he has been making public statements and doing so by outside of the court room to the press assembled. thank ou ve room to the press assembled. thank you very much _ room to the press assembled. thank you very much from _ room to the press assembled. thank you very much from new— room to the press assembled. thank you very much from new york. - a man has appeared in court, charged with murdering 14—year—old daniel anjorin, who died in a sword attack in east london this week. 36—year—old marcus monzo, who has dual spanish and brazilian nationality, also faces several other charges including two counts of attempted murder. ben woolvin reports. arriving at court this morning, the man charged with the murder of a 14—year—old boy.

daniel anjorin was on his way to school on tuesday morning in north—east london when he became one of the victims of this alleged attack involving a samurai sword. he died in hospital shortly afterwards. today, tributes continue to avoid described as a true today, tributes continue to a boy described as a true scholar who had a positive nature and gentle character. there were four other alleged victims including two police officers. marcus monzo has been charged with a total of seven offences including two counts of attempted murder, causing grievous bodily harm, aggravated burglary and possession of a samurai sword. marcus monzo was brought into the dock wearing a grey tracksuit, flanked by four custody officers. he was holding his left arm across his chest. when he was asked to confirm his name, he spoke slowly. mr monzo has been remanded in custody.

he is due to appear at the old bailey on tuesday although an application is being made to bring that hearing forward to tomorrow. ben woolvin, bbc news, westminster magistrates' court. let's end this half—hour with a fascinating story. scientists have, for the first time, observed an orangutan treating a wound with a plant which is known to relieve pain. biologists witnessed a wild male sumatran orangutan chewing the leaves of a climbing plant and applying thejuicy mixture to a wound on his right cheek. georgina rannard reports. this is ra kus. he's just been injured, probably after fighting with other male orangutans. now he's preparing to do something we are all familiar with — trying to heal a wound. that's what scientists in indonesia believe he was doing when they saw him putting medicinal leaves on his injury. he was eating on it for 13 minutes

and then repeatedly applied the plant chews from his mouth directly onto the wound. it looked similar to a wound plaster. it healed also quite fast. so within a couple of days, it was already fully closed. a month later, the injury was completely gone. scientists had never before seen a wild animal apparently healing its own wound. it's another sign of how close we are to great apes. we humans, we treat our wounds, but also forms of active wound treatment can be found in african great apes. it's possible that our last common ancestor already showed similar ointment behaviour. and maybe rakus isn't alone. now, scientists will be watching other orangutans to see if they share his healing powers. georgina rannard, bbc news. let's speak to georgina rannard, our climate and science reporter. really fascinating this discovery. just tell me a little more about how

the scientist actually establish this. ,, . . , , ., , . this. such an interesting story and we think of— this. such an interesting story and we think of these _ this. such an interesting story and we think of these animals - this. such an interesting story and we think of these animals as - this. such an interesting story and| we think of these animals as being loosely related to us so this is just another sign of how close they are. these researchers had been following these critically endangered orangutans in indonesia, the feeding patterns, but they noticed that this one had an injury on his cheek that we have just seen there. then they saw that he took there. then they saw that he took the leaf in the stem of this additional plant that local people actually used to treat malaria so they need it had been his medical properties. they saw him applying it onto his cheek and over time, they saw that wound heal. they think it was deliberate because of the amount of time that he took to do it. seven minutes to make the juice that goes on the wound and another 30 minutes of chewing it, applying the paste. they also saw him resting a lot more after he had this injury which shows he was trying to heal himself, as we all do when we have had an injury and we try to take care of ourselves and we try to take care of ourselves and that's what they think they have

seen him doing here. so interesting, our seen him doing here. so interesting, your description _ seen him doing here. so interesting, your description because _ seen him doing here. so interesting, your description because they - seen him doing here. so interesting, your description because they are . seen him doing here. so interesting, your description because they are so | your description because they are so sophisticated, what is he doing here, so he basically chewed it to get the juice, here, so he basically chewed it to get thejuice, but here, so he basically chewed it to get the juice, but did here, so he basically chewed it to get thejuice, but did not here, so he basically chewed it to get the juice, but did not actually swallow. it get the juice, but did not actually swallow. , . , ~ swallow. it is a bit like the tales our grandparents _ swallow. it is a bit like the tales our grandparents may _ swallow. it is a bit like the tales our grandparents may tell - swallow. it is a bit like the tales our grandparents may tell us. i swallow. it is a bit like the tales - our grandparents may tell us. these old forms of wisdom, putting a leaf on an allergy you may have. he did not swallow it in this case, but they had seen some other great apes in the past swallowing leaves. this is the first time they have seen him make this amazing paste, put on the injury and do this considered, lengthy process of trying to heal the wound. it is just another sign of how intelligent and sophisticated these creatures are. they are not sure if it is the first time he'd ever done it, maybe he was innovating, he could've touched the wound with his finger that had the plant and they gave him a bit of pain relief and rakus carried on doing that, or he may have seen it from other orangutans in the area and learned it socially. they are saying it is just another example of how closely connected we are and

they think maybe we have this common ancestor. we do share 97% of our dna with great apes so they are saying and we can all see that, we can empathise with him those pictures of him wounded, and then treating it. itjust makes us think how amazingly clever they are. irate itjust makes us think how amazingly clever they are.— clever they are. we have to leave it there because _ clever they are. we have to leave it there because we _ clever they are. we have to leave it there because we are _ clever they are. we have to leave it there because we are out _ clever they are. we have to leave it there because we are out of- clever they are. we have to leave it there because we are out of time. i there because we are out of time. thank you for your time and actually bring us the story. really, really fascinating. that brings us to the end of this half—hour of the programme. i will be back with the headline forjust a moment or two. do not go away. hello there. good evening. it was stormy last night across the south, around 4,000 lightning strikes recorded, and still the potential for more thunderstorms overnight tonight and throughout the day tomorrow for some. once again, the best of the warmth and the sunshine for western areas of scotland.

overnight tonight, we've still got that waving front across england and wales, lots of cloud here with some outbreaks of rain. watch out for some heavy, thundery showers pushing into lincolnshire in yorkshire by the time we get to tomorrow morning, perhaps. still with that onshore breeze for north sea—facing coasts, a misty start to the day. plenty of cloud here. and it's a frost—free start to the day tomorrow, of course, as well. now, through friday, we're going to see our waving front slowly push its way a little further northwards, introducing cooler—feeling conditions across the far south coast. but to start with, through the morning, there'll be outbreaks of rain. watch out for these thunderstorms tracking further northwards and westwards through the day, into north—west england, perhaps parts of northern ireland as well. it's a bright start to the day here, but it will cloud over through the afternoon. again, still that onshore breeze — cloudier, coolerfor north sea —facing coasts. a huge drop in temperature for east anglia between thursday and friday. highest temperatures, best of the sunshine across western areas of scotland once again, 21 or 22 degrees. now, as we head through saturday, our front continues to push further northwards across scotland

and northern ireland, so this is where we're likely to see more cloud across the north as we head through saturday. watch out for some showers as well. and i wouldn't totally rule out the possibility of some further showers across the south—east of england. perhaps the best of the sunshine will tend to be across northern england. temperatures more or less the seasonal average. and on saturday night into sunday, we start to see this area of low pressure roll in from the south—west, so possibly the focus for the showers, the cloud will tend to be out towards the south and the west, gradually pushing further northwards and eastwards through the day. so, again, more sunshine for northern england, perhaps more showers and cloud across northern scotland into northern ireland. but it's important not to take the graphics too literally at this stage through the bank holiday weekend, because they're still likely to change. it's a very messy picture all in all. what we do know is that there will be some sunshine at times and, of course, the sun fairly strong at this time of year, so it will feel warm in the best of that, but expect to see more wet

weather, showers and longer spells of rain, too. bye— bye.

this is bbc news. the headlines: president biden says order must prevail after police in los angeles clear a pro—palestinian protest camp. violent protest is not protected. peaceful protest is.

it's against the law when violence occurs. destroying property is not a peaceful protest. it's against the law. here in the uk, protesters have clashed with police over the planned transfer of asylum—seekers to a barge in dorset. one more headline — some new rules for dua lipa. the pop superstar�*s headling glastonbury and her third album is about to drop. all that interview coming up in a moment or two. let's head to the bbc sport centre first. here is marc edwards. good evening. matthew, good evening. all eyes turn to the battle for european qualification in the premier league this week. kicking it off, there's a london derby between chelsea and tottenham hotspur kicking off

at 7.30pm at stamford bridge. we'rejust going to refresh your memory