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campus ca m pus protesters campus protesters have formed a human chain as they continue the stand—off with authorities here on the ground. a special bbc investigation has uncovered new evidence about the killing of two boys by the israeli army. police in georgia have fired water cannons and fired tear gas at thousands of people protesting against a bill that they say targets free speech. hello, i'm samantha simmonds. we start in the us, where pro—palestinian protestors in an encampment at the ucla campus in california have been told to disperse by police or face arrest. these are live pictures outside the camp, where it's nowjust after 3am local time. the standoff is becoming increasingly dramatic, with more and more students gathering to show their support, as demonstrations against the war in gaza continue at universities across the united states. earlier, california's governor gavin
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newsom accused the police of being too slow to respond, after counter—demonstrators attacked the camp on tuesday night. in texas, riot police broke up a similar encampment, accusing the demonstrators of breaching trespass laws. let's hear from our correspondent helena humphrey, who is at the ucla campus live for us. hello, welcome to you. just in the last while, we understand there has been a number of new police, to support the ranks already there? that is right. in terms of who exactly those officers are, you were describing the california highway patrol, we understand they are those people who will be going in to the encampment, where here, we can also see the presence of the lapd as well, to really enforce security. what you can see behind me is a human chain that has been developing in the last few moments. that is to resist further movement of the police, people have been telling me
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because you can see over in this direction, it is that stand—off, but is continuing with police. we understand that police officers had moved into the camp earlier, the encampment. that was after that had been reinforced, barricade had been set up in light of violent clashes, which we had seen yesterday at night. people have been speaking —— people i have been speaking to come in this human chain, people who know people inside the encampment, they say that the officers then left afterwards. there were some reports that bottles were thrown. it is —— that bottles were thrown. it is —— thatis that bottles were thrown. it is —— that is not something we can verify. we have seen from images, that these protesters had these makeshift riot shields. people here have been a continuing to shout, free palestine. they have been calling for peaceful protest. we have been shouting directly at the police, and you can see what side of history do they want to be on? you can again hear those chance here starting up again.
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—— chants. it is a slowly, slowly approach of what could be a clearing of the encampment, but what we have had over the loudspeaker is university administrators as well as the police now saying that that particular encampment is illegal, and anybody remains in it faces arrest. ,, , , and anybody remains in it faces arrest. ,, ._ , ., arrest. stay with us, helena, i 'ust want to take — arrest. stay with us, helena, i 'ust want to take our i arrest. stay with us, helena, i 'ust want to take our viewers �* arrest. stay with us, helena, ijust want to take our viewers through l arrest. stay with us, helena, ijust l want to take our viewers through the geography of the ucla campus while we continue to look at those pictures. the protests camp was set “p pictures. the protests camp was set up in the quadrangle, set up between the university performing arts theatre and the powell library. i don't think that graphic is working at the moment. we will go back to the live shots. that area is known as the dixon court. back to helena, we can show you that graphic. it would be useful if you could take us through the geography of where all of this is happening, helena, where the protesters are, and why they are facing this stand—off with the
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police. facing this stand-off with the olice. , ., , , police. yes, he was the first line ofthe police. yes, he was the first line of the police. — police. yes, he was the first line of the police, exactly _ police. yes, he was the first line of the police, exactly who - police. yes, he was the first line of the police, exactly who they l police. yes, he was the first line i of the police, exactly who they are, facing off against is the students, that we understand because they have been demonstrating here, gathering here through the course of the day. as a protest that is allowed. officers we have been speaking to around the day, they said they recognised that they have to exercise that right for peaceful protest but if we go back over and if we see that first police line there, of the la police department, beyond that and what you start to see, if you can catch it in the vision, is the california highway patrol there was just talking about, that we have seen in full riot gear, including going around the back of that encampment. on either side, we can see these university buildings, and you can see in the direction of my hand, with some scaffolding, the library where we believe protesters have barricaded the door is. moments you have seen them appearing on the
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scaffolding, and following a palestinian flag, and beyond that, if you can still make it out, is where we are seeing this encampment set out, so you can see one wall of it here, reinforced with plywood after those violent clashes. it stretches some way back on and on the other side, it is difficult to get to, because it has largely been cordoned off, it is the area with the police have been going through. it is on the top of an escarpment. in terms of how authorities managed to get into what they have got through that plywood, and so one, they then have a kind of a steep climb which will probably pose some kind of challenge as to how this operation is carried out, when it is carried out. operation is carried out, when it is carried out-— operation is carried out, when it is carried out. what kind of members are we talking _ carried out. what kind of members are we talking about, _ carried out. what kind of members are we talking about, looking - carried out. what kind of members are we talking about, looking at i carried out. what kind of members| are we talking about, looking at the aerial shots, are we talking about, looking at the aerialshots, it looks are we talking about, looking at the aerial shots, it looks like hundreds of people. —— what kind of numbers? it looks like hundreds rather than thousands. , it looks like hundreds rather than thousands-_ it looks like hundreds rather than thousands. , ., ., thousands. yes, we have also tried to no to thousands. yes, we have also tried to go to some _ thousands. yes, we have also tried to go to some high _ thousands. yes, we have also tried to go to some high ground - thousands. yes, we have also tried to go to some high ground to - thousands. yes, we have also tried to go to some high ground to get i to go to some high ground to get an idea by looking in. iwould
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to go to some high ground to get an idea by looking in. i would say that that estimation seems correct. hundreds as opposed to thousands. people have been able to see inside, you will notice that they are wearing all manner despite all manner of hard hats, if they can get their hands on, goggles in some cases, many people covering their faces, notjust as a security precaution from tear gas, or any kind of spray in the air from whichever side that may be, but also because people have said that they are concerned about revealing their identity regarding repercussions from the university, for people who are set to graduate and the job market. that is the picture we have been getting inside as well. of course, those police numbers have also significantly swelled.— also significantly swelled. helena, we're 'ust also significantly swelled. helena, we're just going — also significantly swelled. helena, we're just going to _ also significantly swelled. helena, we're just going to listen - also significantly swelled. helena, we're just going to listen into - also significantly swelled. helena, we're just going to listen into the l we're just going to listen into the audio of a tv crew who are up in a helicopter overlooking the demonstrations. this is some
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commentary from abc seven los angeles. commentary from abc seven los an . eles. ., commentary from abc seven los anaeles. . _, angeles. large contingent, particularly _ angeles. large contingent, particularly from _ angeles. large contingent, particularly from the - angeles. large contingent, l particularly from the original squad. — particularly from the original squad, moving into the south side of royce _ squad, moving into the south side of royce hall _ squad, moving into the south side of royce hall. ithink squad, moving into the south side of royce hall. i think they see the opportunity for a somewhat easier access_ opportunity for a somewhat easier access than that of the staircase, but it_ access than that of the staircase, but it seems like they have also divided — but it seems like they have also divided in— but it seems like they have also divided in half. —— almost divided in half _ in half. studio: some in half. — studio: some more information in half. _ studio: some more information there about the seems we are looking at. that was some commentary from a tv crew who are in that helicopter. helena, just remind us of why it is the university wants to disperse this protest? why they say it is a legal? —— illegal? in this protest? why they say it is a legal? -- illegal?— legal? -- illegal? in terms of previous _ legal? -- illegal? in terms of previous process _ legal? -- illegal? in terms of previous process we - legal? -- illegal? in terms of previous process we have - legal? -- illegal? in terms of. previous process we have seen legal? -- illegal? in terms of - previous process we have seen from private universities, this is a public school, so, essentially, the
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university administrators are making the case that they want a public school, but it shouldn't go ahead because they say essentially, this is occupying this area and they are dealing this to be unlawful. of course, you can hear those chants behind me from people saying this is a peaceful protest, this is something that people on american university campuses would say is steeped in tradition, going back to the 60s, for example. the student movements that we have seen, but in terms of why they say it is lawful... the university administrators say... let administrators say... shouting. let them go- -- — administrators say... shouting. let them gen 50 _ administrators say... shouting. let them go... so that _ administrators say... shouting. let them go... so that campus - administrators say... shouting. let them go... so that campus life - administrators say... shouting. let them go... so that campus life can l them go... so that campus life can continue, them go... so that campus life can continue. and _ them go... so that campus life can continue, and midterm _ them go... so that campus life can continue, and midterm exams, - them go... so that campus life can i continue, and midterm exams, which we also know have been cancelled here. ~ ., we also know have been cancelled here. ~ . ., ,., we also know have been cancelled here. ~ . ., , , here. we are hearing some pretty loud chanting. _ here. we are hearing some pretty loud chanting. there _ here. we are hearing some pretty loud chanting. there are - here. we are hearing some pretty loud chanting. there are those . here. we are hearing some pretty. loud chanting. there are those that say that there is an aspect of if
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not this demonstration, but others that have been held at campuses across the us, that are intimidating and threatening in some cases, towards jewish students, anti—semitic. towards jewish students, anti-semitic. ~ , ., anti-semitic. absolutely. that has been riaht anti-semitic. absolutely. that has been right across _ anti-semitic. absolutely. that has been right across the _ anti-semitic. absolutely. that has been right across the country. - been right across the country. jewish students have been saying that it jewish students have been saying thatitis jewish students have been saying that it is notjust a case of feeling uncomfortable, they feel it is a threat to their safety. that has been echoed from the president by then, through to the deans of the universities, saying that they cannot allow this kind of anti—semitism, and at the same time, there have been rising reports of islamophobia, and campuses as well. and universities are subject to a federal investigation with regards to that. reports of that increasing, since october the 7th. itjust shows you what a polarising debate this country is in right now. if you take a look at a large part of the student body here, and i think it is
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being seen across the country, there is also discontent with the way in which israel has been carrying out this war and the support that washington has been giving us as well. whatever happens here tonight, if people are moved out in a large numbers of this encampment, i think it has been fair to say that that won't quell that discontent. the only thing that really would be, would be a lasting ceasefire. helena, how much attention, interest, is this process and others at college campuses getting from ordinary americans? i at college campuses getting from ordinary americans?— ordinary americans? i think it is something _ ordinary americans? i think it is something that _ ordinary americans? i think it is something that everybody - ordinary americans? i think it is something that everybody has l ordinary americans? i think it is - something that everybody has been talking about. just to paint you a picture, people have been saying things like, turn on the tv, have you seen what is happening at columbia university right now? police are moving in. you can speak to people and they say that this reminds them of what they saw or took part in in the 1970s, at the
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university of barclays, for example, in california, was at the beginning of the free speech movement for example. and when we saw protest against the vietnam war, for example, and us involvement. —— berkley. it has grabbed national attention. ~ �* , ., attention. we're 'ust to those chance, attention. we're 'ust to those cnnce. getting — attention. we're just to those chance, getting some - attention. we're just to those l chance, getting some close-up chance, getting some close—up pictures of these protesters. free palestine! and _ pictures of these protesters. free palestine! and we _ pictures of these protesters. free palestine! and we talk _ pictures of these protesters. free palestine! and we talk about - palestine! and we talk about those nrocess palestine! and we talk about those process across _ palestine! and we talk about those process across the _ palestine! and we talk about those process across the last _ palestine! and we talk about those process across the last week - palestine! and we talk about those process across the last week or - palestine! and we talk about those process across the last week or so | process across the last week or so across dozens of universities, is it something that you feel is spreading across the colleges come across the us? they are increasing in number and notjust in the number of process, the number of people who are attending them?— process, the number of people who are attending them? sorry, i missed the beginning _ are attending them? sorry, i missed the beginning of— are attending them? sorry, i missed the beginning of your _ are attending them? sorry, i missed the beginning of your question. - are attending them? sorry, i missed the beginning of your question. i - the beginning of your question. i think you are asking about whether there has been gaining momentum, a number of people attending, yes, there have been. i can even tell you that to give you an example of here, after what we saw last night, with
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these violent clashes essentially, we then saw more people turning up to express solidarity with what has been happening, so, yes, they are continuing to spread across the country. as we have seen internationally, as well. talk is throu . h internationally, as well. talk is through the — internationally, as well. talk is through the demands - internationally, as well. talk is through the demands of - internationally, as well. talk is through the demands of these | through the demands of these protesters. what is it they once university authorities to do. —— want. university authorities to do. -- want. ., ., university authorities to do. -- want. . ~ ., ' , want. talking to different people throu:hout want. talking to different people throughout the _ want. talking to different people throughout the day, _ want. talking to different people throughout the day, they - want. talking to different people throughout the day, they have i throughout the day, they have different demands, whether that is a lasting ceasefire, we have also seen people saying that they do not want to see that ground operation in rafah. we have also heard president biden say that that would be a red line. coming back to that essential demands on universities, which is divestments. severing the financial ties, and lasting associations with israel as well. that bds movement
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has existed on campus for a long time, dating back to the 1960s. these are calls that university administrations have ceded to so far, in all those decades. andy talked about the response will from sumptuous responsibilities, that they see —— that they say they have been feeling threatened. what they see -- that they say they have been feeling threatened.— been feeling threatened. what kind of reaction has _ been feeling threatened. what kind of reaction has there _ been feeling threatened. what kind of reaction has there been - been feeling threatened. what kind of reaction has there been from - of reaction has there been from jewish organisations? certainly, there have _ jewish organisations? certainly, there have been _ jewish organisations? certainly, there have been those - jewish organisations? certainly, there have been those jewish i there have been thosejewish organisations who have echoed that, saying it is about making sure that universities can be places of learning, where everybody feels safe, but then you also speak to other people and there was just one young man in that human chain who was wearing a sweatshirt with the slogan on it, jews for a ceasefire. other people we know inside that encampment, one faculty member, he
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says he knows other members from jewish organisations, who are standing in solidarity who also want to see a ceasefire, who do not believe that this war is being carried out in the right way. of course, those continued concerns over anti—semitism and then a balancing that with the right to protest other central questions that the universities right now are trying to grapple with.- the universities right now are trying to grapple with. what impact of these protest _ trying to grapple with. what impact of these protest having _ trying to grapple with. what impact of these protest having on - trying to grapple with. what impact of these protest having on the - of these protest having on the campuses themselves? we know at one college, they have had to cancel their graduation ceremony, haven't they? their graduation ceremony, haven't the ? , , ., ., their graduation ceremony, haven't the ? , , . ., , they? yes, they have. that is the thin. they? yes, they have. that is the thing- the _ they? yes, they have. that is the thing. the thing _ they? yes, they have. that is the thing. the thing is _ they? yes, they have. that is the thing. the thing is this _ they? yes, they have. that is the thing. the thing is this morning, | they? yes, they have. that is the | thing. the thing is this morning, if you are familiar with los angeles, people often drive in. people didn't know what had happened overnight, if classes has been cancelled, if they were online, and so, they turned up to find that they weren't able to go to find that they weren't able to go to class. at one point, i was speaking to a campus university reporter who had been saying that
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you have to remember that for lots of these young people, they went to school, pat graduated high school during covid mac. now they are here once again, going towards their graduation. perhaps they graduated. they are again finding that they cannot fully participate in campus life and have that moment of academic achievement, for example. another university, one woman who was set to become the first muslim valedictorian to give the speech, they are no longer able to because university said that they would not be able to guarantee the security. in some ways, this has absolutely disrupted campus life, and in other ways, this very much harks back to a moment of history in the united states. to the end of the 60s when we saw the nationwide protest on the nation's campuses.— nation's campuses. thank you, helena. nation's campuses. thank you, helena- we — nation's campuses. thank you, helena. we have _ nation's campuses. thank you, helena. we have been - nation's campuses. thank you, helena. we have been hearing| nation's campuses. thank you, - helena. we have been hearing chants there of, leave our campus! there
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has been stand—offs with the police, we know that plise has been brought in to try and disperse the crowd. stay with us here in bbc news.
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some breaking news. 711 people were detected crossing the english channel on wednesday, the highest number on a single day so far this year. that's according to the home office. with more on this — the bbc�*s simonjones who joins us from the newsroom. take us through the numbers. it has been an incredibly _ take us through the numbers. it has been an incredibly busy _ take us through the numbers. it i:s been an incredibly busy period take us through the numbers. it i:3 been an incredibly busy period in the channel, over the past week, the sea has been very calm, and we have seen more than 2000 people make the crossing from northern france over into uk waters, where they are picked up by the border force or the lifeboat and brought to dover. yesterday, 711 people made the
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crossing, arriving on ia boats. there is an average of more than 50 people per boat, so although we talk about a small boat crossing is, those boats have been getting much bigger in recent months, overloaded with more and more people. we saw the dangers of making these crossings last week when five people lost their lives on a boat that had around 120 people on board. since then, an investigation has been taking place into what happened, here in the uk, and over in france, led by the french authorities, but today, we have learned from the national crime agency here in the uk that they have charged a man from sudan he was on that boat, with entering the uk illegally. he is due to appear before magistrates in reading and to other people have already been charged with immigration offences. it is worth noting the figures so far this year, they have seen a rise in the people making the crossing, up by around one third in the same period last year. one third in the same period last ear. . ., one third in the same period last ear. ,, ., ., ~ , .,
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we can take you back the united states now. the campus at university of california where police are attempting to clear those crowds of attempting to clear those crowds of a pro—palestinian protesters. helena humphreys is there for us. this a pro-palestinian protesters. helena humphreys is there for us.— humphreys is there for us. this is as far as we _ humphreys is there for us. this is as far as we can _ humphreys is there for us. this is as far as we can get _ humphreys is there for us. this is as far as we can get right - humphreys is there for us. this is as far as we can get right now. i humphreys is there for us. this is. as far as we can get right now. you can see those police lines, you can see the moving forward of the police. what you can see there is... explosion. we police. what you can see there is... explosion-— explosion. we can hear explosion flares now. — explosion. we can hear explosion flares now. and _ explosion. we can hear explosion flares now, and you _ explosion. we can hear explosion flares now, and you can _ explosion. we can hear explosion flares now, and you can see - explosion. we can hear explosion flares now, and you can see more | flares now, and you can see more police running, you can see the hustle and bustle of what is going on. police have broken through that perimeter. they are dragging away the barricades. you can hear what appears to be fireworks right now. more of the california highway patrol are going in. those fireworks continuing to go off, and it appears that they may be making some arrests, certainly some people appear to be coming out with their hands tied behind their back. i can
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see one such protester so far. the police being escorted away from the scenic... where you can see the police starting to pull away metal barricades. we know that plywood had been used for reinforcement throughout the course of the day. certainly, it appears that some kind of turmoil is going on right now, as the policejust cast of turmoil is going on right now, as the police just cast away those barricades that had been erected and reinforced throughout the course of the afternoon, as they move in from the afternoon, as they move in from the other side. earlier, they had moved in from behind, we believe, and has since retreated. now they are coming from this other side and are coming from this other side and a significant opening now of this area where we believe a few hundred people are still inside, despite those calls of them to disperse. fireworks are now being thrown into the air, as you can see. they are
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being thrown as police moved in. it is now approaching 3:30am there. officers arrived at the campus on wednesday morning, didn't they? the ones the protesters that they would be arrested if they did not leave. —— they warned. be arrested if they did not leave. -- they warned-— be arrested if they did not leave. -- they warned. absolutely. these calls and these _ -- they warned. absolutely. these calls and these protests _ -- they warned. absolutely. these calls and these protests have - -- they warned. absolutely. these calls and these protests have beenj calls and these protests have been growing throughout the course of the day for people to leave. you could now see them dragging away significant amount of words there, bottles i've just seen being thrown out there. it's a rocket or a firework that has just landed on the ground. they have these calls, which were to leave or face arrest. right up were to leave or face arrest. right up until about were to leave or face arrest. right up untilaboutan were to leave or face arrest. right up until about an hour ago, we even saw some protesters coming out through a side entrance, seemingly deciding that they didn't want to be here at this moment. we were wondering when it was going to happen. obviously now, that operation is fully under way. arnie
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operation is fully under way. we understand that three bus loads of extra police, highway patrol police were brought in just a short time ago to deal with this. yes. were brought in just a short time ago to deal with this.— were brought in just a short time ago to deal with this. yes. i cannot confirm the — ago to deal with this. yes. i cannot confirm the numbers, _ ago to deal with this. yes. i cannot confirm the numbers, but - ago to deal with this. yes. i cannot confirm the numbers, but that - ago to deal with this. yes. i cannot l confirm the numbers, but that would sound right because we know that was the specific responsibility of the highway patrol police which you can actuallyjust highway patrol police which you can actually just see there, highway patrol police which you can actuallyjust see there, over my shoulder. they were the ones that are going to go into this encampment, and the la police department, which you can see behind me, have been put on something called a tactical alert, essentially more people being pulled into the area, instead of other things that they had been attending. that gives they had been attending. that gives the indication that this move to clear the encampment would likely be coming tonight. we first got word that it would be happening around midnight. it seems to be a slow operation. around 3.5 hours later
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than the whispers that had been going on here, it is now fully coming to pass.— going on here, it is now fully coming to pass. going on here, it is now fully comin: to ass. �* . coming to pass. and as we look at these pictures. — coming to pass. and as we look at these pictures, which _ coming to pass. and as we look at these pictures, which will- coming to pass. and as we look at these pictures, which will be - coming to pass. and as we look at i these pictures, which will be beamed around the world, the authorities there, the universities, they declare this encampment to be unlawful. a difficult balancing act for them and many campuses around america who want to ensure that their students have free speech but also want to protect the rights of other students.— other students. that is the balancing _ other students. that is the balancing act _ other students. that is the balancing act they - other students. that is the balancing act they have i other students. that is the | balancing act they have had other students. that is the i balancing act they have had to strike, as you say, all eyes are on this, all eyes are even more keenly trained in light of the fact that we saw these violent clashes with counter demonstrators last night. there were the accusations... including the governor of california saying that the police did not move
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fast enough. we saw 15 people injured. we even had a warning tonight that if you don't get out, in time, there is the potentialfor injury, just as one would imagine, looking at this scene, the movement, as you can see, lots of confusion. i've just seen other person coming out with their hands behind their back. we had previously seen authorities on the scene with zip ties and so on, as they go about trying to make those arrests, but as you say, everybody is watching this. they will be scrutinised, as to whether they had the chance to protest peacefully, the students, and how exactly this is disbanded and how exactly this is disbanded and as it carried out in a peaceful way. and as it carried out in a peaceful wa . . . ~' and as it carried out in a peaceful wa. , .,~ way. yes, we were talking about numbers- _ way. yes, we were talking about numbers- is _ way. yes, we were talking about numbers. is it _ way. yes, we were talking about numbers. is it possible - way. yes, we were talking about numbers. is it possible to - way. yes, we were talking about i numbers. is it possible to estimate just how many protesters there are there? those have been gathering over the last few days? it is
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there? those have been gathering over the last few days?— over the last few days? it is very difficult. we — over the last few days? it is very difficult. we have _ over the last few days? it is very difficult. we have heard - over the last few days? it is very difficult. we have heard inside i over the last few days? it is very i difficult. we have heard inside the encampment, a few hundred, as opposed to thousands. i'm not going to turn the camera back the other way, but this is where the action is happening, but over the course of the day, what we saw was hundreds and hundreds of people who were protesting in a peaceful manner, students and so on who were gathered to show their solidarity and support in light of the violent clashes that we saw last night, so certainly, i think it is fair to say, swelling into the thousands here. i think it is fair to say, swelling into the thousands here. i guess the nolice into the thousands here. i guess the police would — into the thousands here. i guess the police would argue, _ into the thousands here. i guess the police would argue, they _ into the thousands here. i guess the police would argue, they had - into the thousands here. i guess the police would argue, they had been l police would argue, they had been warned, that they were told to leave, orface warned, that they were told to leave, or face arrest. warned, that they were told to leave, orface arrest. explosion. yes that was repeated warning over the megaphone that increased with intensity. i think we also heard from university administrative as well, calling on people, trying to reason with them saying, this is why
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we want you to leave, but clearly for these people who want to remain, who are resisting and they have said, some of them, that they were going to resist at any cost, and many people are resisting. you can see some smoke there in the ek we don't know what that is yet, or who that has come from, that is something that we had seen earlier, causing the crowds to move backwards a little. that action their... and seen of the bottle being thrown out as well as crowd starts to move back slightly. brute as well as crowd starts to move back slichtl . ~ . as well as crowd starts to move back slichtl . . , ., as well as crowd starts to move back slichtl .~ , ., slightly. we 'ust looking at some close-u . slightly. we just looking at some close-up shots, _ slightly. we just looking at some close-up shots, we _ slightly. we just looking at some close-up shots, we can - slightly. we just looking at some close-up shots, we can see i slightly. we just looking at some l close-up shots, we can see police close—up shots, we can see police trying to pull down some wooden placards, piece of wood that the protesters have put up. we just saw some smoke being fired in the direction of the police from the encampment. it looks like police armed with guns. i'm presuming there are rubber bullets on those. i don't know, i'm guessing. they are armed with batons as well.—
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with batons as well. there is everything — with batons as well. there is everything here, _ with batons as well. there is everything here, to - with batons as well. there is everything here, to be i with batons as well. there is l everything here, to be honest. talking about that smoke that you are seeing right now, situations can change of course, that there was what people call bear spray, last night. i was caught up a little bit in that last night, thankfully to no irritation. substances can change. you can see that whole gazebo is coming down behind me. in terms of weaponry, reinforcements, of course, weaponry, reinforcements, of course, we have seen police in full riot gear here stop they have had what appears to be some kind of rubber propellants as well, but this is united states, people are fully armed as well here, people have gas masks, as we have two. —— as we have as well. masks, as we have two. -- as we have as well. ~ ., .
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masks, as we have two. -- as we have aswell. ~ . , , ., , , as well. what is it the protesters are demanding, _ as well. what is it the protesters are demanding, why _ as well. what is it the protesters are demanding, why are - as well. what is it the protesters are demanding, why are they i as well. what is it the protesters i are demanding, why are they refusing to leave? , ., are demanding, why are they refusing to leave? , . ., ., ., to leave? they have a range of demands. _ to leave? they have a range of demands, and _ to leave? they have a range of demands, and up— to leave? they have a range of demands, and up until- to leave? they have a range of demands, and up untilvery- to leave? they have a range of- demands, and up untilvery recently, demands, and up until very recently, people are waving to us across the barricades, making peace signs, saying peaceful protest, what side of history he wants to be on? their demands of various. —— what side of history do you want to be on. they are calling for a ceasefire, not to be a ground invasion in gaza and very specifically, here at the university, they have been calling for cutting all financial ties with israel as well. this is something that has been a long—running movement on university campuses, demands from people, in support of palestinians. so far, this is not something that universities in the united states have done, have engaged with. remember that relationship between the united states and israel. the united states
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was the first country to pick up the phone and call israel upon its founding and said that it would remained its staunchest ally. president biden has said, our support for you is ironclad. of course, in recent weeks, as the ground operations continue in gaza, i think they have obviously clearly been tensions there between the israeli war cabinet and washington. taken through again the kind of impact that these protests are having, notjust in california, but across the united states, with jewish groups, in particular, jewish students saying that some of these protests have anti—semitic intent, and that they view them in some cases an —— as intimidating and threatening? cases an -- as intimidating and threatening?— cases an -- as intimidating and threatening? yeah, listening very carefully to _ threatening? yeah, listening very carefully to the _ threatening? yeah, listening very carefully to the demonstrators i carefully to the demonstrators today, talking to them, listen to their process, there were chances that people with consider to be
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anti—semitic, among the crowds, and as such, we have heard, right across the country the jewish groups, jewish students, parents of students, saying, we no longer want to send our children including a private institution, saying that the don't feel safe essentially, we have seen those concerns right across the country, echoed. obviously, there is also concern. there has been a reported rise of both anti—semitic and islamophobic incident here as well. this is about balancing a first amendment rights, the right to protest, but also people's ability to go about their everyday lives, to carry on their learning in a way that feels safe from harm, and that is what students say they have not been able to do here. we is what students say they have not been able to do here.— been able to do here. we have certainly had — been able to do here. we have certainly had the _ been able to do here. we have certainly had the politicians i certainly had the politicians weighing in, the former house speaker, nancy pelosi spoke about that, the right to protest is enshrined and should protected but she also called on protesters to
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