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and from free full to rebound to nigeria, deniva valley's off the economic performed spots my jillions of band, the run to sky high installation. the world is nowhere near which even be sustainable development goals. by 2013, we speak to the president of the un general assembly about his call to action. china is germany's biggest trade partner bought. berlin also sees badging as a competitor and a rival out of the 1st ever strategy on china and launch last year. it touched to reduce dependence on the chinese market, but during his visit last week to china, the german chancellor signalled his intentions to maintain business ties that may have and get some of all that shows is closest allies. the e u has not several investigation since the exports of chinese green technology to protect your pen industry from what it sees as unfair competition to meet you

method, dancler reports on what's at stake for schultz. 3 days in china for chancellor overlook schultz and his entourage of top chief executives from leading jim and companies that's despite the german government announced strategy to reduce risk of becoming too dependent on china serializing buying. would you change it fucking china in germany or the 2nd and 3rd largest economies in the world and the significance of consolidating and developing sino gym and relations transcends the scope of bilateral relations. it has an important impact on the erosion content and, and even the entire world. china is gemini, number one trading partner, giant german firms such as volkswagen, have been actively expanding the business that for thousands of years. but many of the companies have said they feel disadvantaged or even discriminated against, accusing china of protecting its own companies with massive subsidies and some

policy involved as a. this is a key issue all over the world. many countries do that, especially when it comes to renewable energy use in advance to let them ability technologies. and that's why it's important that we establish processes here to ensure that we move away from the practices where everyone ex, simply, according to their own ideas. that's one of the reasons the e u has launched several investigations into cheapo chinese goods flooding the market, including electric vehicles. german comic is via these investigations could lead to a damaging trade war july and the name the one we see on the primary goal with the business must be to make profits for chinese market contributes 2 thirds of global electric vehicle sales. so the chinese market is indispensable to the gym and car companies, and they also build factories to the through germany's chinese partners. c schultz has visit as a positive sign. i think the message is very clear. a jeremy and want to continue

corporation with china continue to grow business in china that continue to expand some of the areas country. maybe not enough corporation. well, not enough german business presidency in china, such as we college of fluid around 120, over the years. china relied on gemini, i'm the you for tech inputs, but now it's technologically self sufficient. in the event of a major spots with the world's 2nd largest economy, germany's could be seriously damaged. some experts say gym and g d p could shrink by 5 percent. the same amount as during the cobit crisis to meet you met that in co, out to 0 for counting the cost of a more on this let spring, and i guess it's joining us from milan. italy is danielle gross. he's the director of the institute for european policy making at book one of university and an

advisor to the european parliament. and from sonya pool is shay gong. she's an assistant professor in the china program at 9 yang technological university. a very well welcome to both of you, mr. goes, i'll start with you in milan. why has all of that shots gone from pledging to scale back to him? and he was reliance on china when he took office to you know, what he was saying when he was in china calling for an equal access to china as markets for foreign funds. i think one of the phones wanted to see reality and the reality is german fans do own business in china. they complain because there might be doing even better business. but the chinese market is very important to them all as a production the venue. but also because i'm trying to use competitors and now if you're the furniture company has perhaps a different opinion. the dean would like trying to play investment ball rolling on

the drum and economy. but the reality is different. china is just one of the biggest markets in the world and gen companies and that they're going to be there. and that's the, that's the relative to the finds. and that serenity, yes, drug, cent. okay. uh, must on, do you agree with mr. gross, that essentially the economic relationship between this well 2nd and 3rd largest economy work from political calculations here. well, we have to be aware that definitely, you know, we can all make and business interest. you know, just driving shots, visit china. because as you know, the leaders he wants to see what is really happening, right? because the days trying to, you know, plays chapel fancy build some level of market reforms. you know, like reduce negative list. what if the eyes that may be really beneficial, but for the german companies or even for the european companies. but we need to

understand the context of china, your religious have to be a lot of things, but to you in the is about the growing competition is a consensus amount, whether you members and the visit actually came after the launch, the, the rescue strategy reduce. they come to pendleton china, right. and we have seen her so many stories and complaints about the i've been practiced at the chinese market. you know, the chinese government has the advantage, mark you right through the subsidies also through the federal fiscal or in, in financial, you know, support about the or the 2nd little want to highlight is actually, is the structural differences in handling with russia, where i've been during the visit the shot to the extreme point out that no german german is very concerned about china's engagement with russia. and some of the engagement can actually, you know, um the voltage provide at most to rush items. you did, you are usage of the assistance that china provided, right?

and, and, but also china condemned to use the ashes on russia, which also affect the chinese companies along the way. i want to highlight, you know, that i don't really things on a matter of things. good change because the visiting cuz the 2 sides have really felt better idea. always divide on how to feel inc, dash holder. so these differences will continue to besides, you be called straight and she mentioned breakthroughs in the bilateral relationship. ok, there's lots to pick up on the i want to go back to daniel goes with the 1st thing that you talked about, which is the context of this business taking place. something was already mentioned that you are paying union is, is investigation china, you know, for what it cools. it's all the capacity. it's, it's dumping practices. mr. goes with jobs. the german chancellor. stand on this. does he suppose that you are paid invest? the investigations will not the right thing. there is some difference of opinion among in your re boundaries on the mission is doing right now. and because the

german automobile producers are doing a very important business in china and german automobile as also not viewed, strengthened by chinese you months. and therefore many be by your own savings that this investigation of the commission was more french interests and german names. but to germany, it's across the country in the, in europe, and you'll read you again, but it cannot always dictate what's, what's being done. and i think that is the difference between the level and the collection that, okay, i think we're taking that $1000000.00 euro. what to use like to reduce our reliance on china? the economic vanity is different. and i think this tension between politics and the economics is the bank problem. this is and this tension been bugging you for a long time. okay. and as you mentioned, mr. gloss, you know,

we have the ceo of necessities, of being w, just to name a few, talking about how they don't see competition from china. they see opportunities in china. miss gong, which feels do you see it growing? and i'm, and how important is that to china? you know, to show that it can do really good business in trade, whether you appear in country, in the backdrop of these tensions with the european union. yes, you are the well, the key areas that both sides will be really, you know, happy to work always the great energy. right is, but we won't really, it's definitely because of russian where you're suffering from this adage, crises throughout the years, and they're going to use that. china is gaining advantages. and also can, you know, some how can you know, a company met with the village, a building in euro. and the thing is that i think the 2 sides, they actually know things about the 3rd party collaboration, which so many used to be part of it in the back to really the shape of it doesn't

have to be brand new belt. they're really new shaking. but they can call, you know, they can think of the plan that they're marketing that's, that's the southeast asia, let's say, you know, indonesia, we're trying to get capitalized on german get biology and also the good image in terms of building the great technology. yup, i'm glad you both have certain markets because i want to bring daniel growth in here on a fascinating article that you wrote about frayed restrictions and about how, you know trade restrictions such as tower of such as the ones that we saw. donald trump put on china don't actually reduce the amount of trade, they just redirect it. and that's exactly what we also ran. the us does not allow involved a cost for example, problem china. then the, the you are being the, produces a, have a good amount paid for themselves in the united states, and then showing the export more to your. so ma'am you have the same thing also in

asia where and the chinese change their immediate what's to my asia, and then my laser puts things together and chip small, then go to the us. so this by natural tree, these by natural trade, winds investigations bits in the us and china, back into the benefit. all of us, like my age and i get now, but also like you. and that's why i say euro doesn't really have to take a stance on this particular issue and can just uh, the website and the more reasonable and certainly more reasonable than united states. okay. just lost the missed call. and let me put this to you with the us selection coming up lisa. this. yeah. how do you think china and the you and germany, how are they looking at their relationship in life of might be coming out of the us later this. yeah. oh, i think there are a lot of a lot of things are going on, but why don't these very clear in terms of how we perceive china, you know,

whether it's a market economy rate, that's something that china wants to be recognized throughout the years, especially from the european culture parts, but with the fundamentals you 1st use, then imagine previously, you know, about new article, divide about, you know, how to play the much the role and also about the, you know, the perceptions of russia. i don't thing that, you know, the 2 sides will be, will be still continue to ramble width of issues that were in front of them. but up there. but as you know, german has been a very good example in terms of how to, you know, stretch out despite the, you know, called strings space. how to keep the conversation open and how to, you know, make you try to understand the causes and try to work these out is something that i think the regional partners should have a close eye on share going. and so in a pull and daniel gross and milan, italy, thank you both very much for your time. thank you. i.

the nigeria, as advocates, largest oil producer, you get the nation's economy, is in crisis, and inflation as rocketing foreign exchange is in short supply and corporate giants leaving the country. 40 percent of nigeria as population now lives in poverty, president bullet to know who took office last 2 has moved or the whole the economy and attract investment. but all his meshes working will you get to enter that with i guess shortly. but 1st, let's have a look at what's being done to turn things around when to be assumed power loss may nigeria was spending almost all of its revenues on service in debt, or which nation had barely any money to pay for anything else. so his 1st measure was to scrap popular fuel subsidies that will cost to the country around $10000000000.00 a year. the president has also loosened controls over the currency in a bit to unify the official and unofficial exchange rates. as you can see here, the nora was the valued in june,

and in february it had lost almost 70 percent of its value by march. but now the myra has been labeled the best performing currency in the world after a strong rebound in march and april. it's back below $1200.00 to the dollar off the central bank increased interest rates to almost 25 percent, making it more attractive to keep savings in the niagara. these reforms have been very taxing somebody's uva, as population. inflation is at the highest level in almost 3 decades. the price of rise has doubled in the past due. well, petro price jump, $3.00 falls, and all this is putting pressure on to boost government to prove the reforms will eventually end the economic pain. let's get stuck into this with gospel or ben a. he's an economist, the straightened all next steps and nigerian think tank. thank you for your time mr . obey so the nava is rebounding but the current country is bending to the foreign exchange reserves at a rate not seen and for years can you explain the connection and if it's

a concern ah yes that's to say that there was a software issue that's a gaming because for the generation enough for an extend receipts which really come on. all right, i'm explaining that the case may be as a result there is a constraint around how much of the supply. ready it was, and i turn economy to be, which means it's consistent being create verizon, you know, looks like the fund for the exchange and back sweetie. be just chatting for a long time. and again, we're not so much of a bank douglas went to the production station in general, cloud productions got to be as an export, the capabilities to, to reach the multi next january 6. so that supply gap is why you also the private sector bank trying to results to each resides to fund most of these. um, should i say short term based reforms? don't see more recently. yeah, i'm, i'm glad you said are you, you're quoting them, short to reforms. if you look at, you know, we keep saying that my gerry is africa's largest oil producer. yeah. that actually

imports most of the petrol that it uses as the country looking at longer to resolutions, to the long standing economic problems. yes, the country is, but i think it's a case of number one. there's a growth under estimation of the f one, investments behavioral and cultural change that needs to happen. image instead of the country, the most affordable task of progress about strategy. also given the fact that there was a weekly decal window in context, although what we sent the, the content restriction made by the crap example i'm actually russian. somebody took me to ma political will. but again, for the sufficient be the best of the level of change, ok to wrestle prospect that needs to happen. what are the, what are the behavior and the cultural changes that you think need to happen? you know, nigeria has been beset with corruption, for example, for so many years as well. what do you mean? you'll be able to change my own context would be leaving from you know, from

a ground up to 3 kind of approach. and i got everybody reflected by the some national local levels, uninsured government funds, i refreshing of what the people need appointment time and how much will she's also lead to see? you put some of those reports. i did the review of this policy progress, take photos of the cost drug stop progress. was it necessary condition to be able to select the leave of relief points for the insurance? recently, strategically such as the except for log slide dimensions. those sort of piled key sites look to the economy and also inquiry long. all state trumpet number is set to image settings to setup for you x. you know, there's so many men join to be up to the export ready. but if you don't have the product that's will access the market, it'll probably teach to to, to do more. we didn't have cost for this. calculate the ba contracting bureau changes like around each additional support the dimensions of logic. yeah, i was just going to say as a, how do you enable that? you know that financial support,

that investment and what role the foreign investment have to play? i mean fall and capital has really fled nigeria in the past few months. yes, it is quite disheartening. i just would like to a link to the for, you know, a business environment your logic states will see many of the major african nations, rather what's attractive or the best needs of the case may be. so we need, just for supplements wondering, do i need to feed much functional tally and use, or i just structure each drop highlight the shuttle, but to any security, you know, on all of that, but also the ease of doing business, you know, a contract regulations bought to make some of these things and even the business environment itself. all right, so that needs to be 6 long rice fixed with a very strong coordinate to 5. uh uh, so part of the matter, of course, if you could, if you splendid what it should be, it's going to be a lot more easier for us to sign up for you to find approximately. so what's plus $1300.00. as long as i can strengthen the local crazy for local businesses. okay.

and what about the local people? do you see that the changes that have been made will in fact benefits nigerians themselves. i don't think the changes will really benefit and then get into the short term. and that's because there's a degree cost of leading prices and the argument john is going for a for a close, low cost closer than switching. and the most us, in the case where prices of goods and fixes, i'm going to should be coming down even if we succeed unofficial. the cost of living prices like between the reducing to the corporate adoption of consumption, that he makes the right, the cleaning genera. right, so what we now need is really freaking the sector. all it's eventually that must happen in the different lots of sectors that have the capacity to re spend young people from just poverty. open the global public, you know, to more sustainable tax when it comes with prosperity just in case the be. so for me tomorrow i'll drive the sector. ready landscape not on flight divisions that kind of look for the state of the piece. on a scale of treatment, julian's needed the most to the full by what's also good type of need to be

stopping it before the costs are beating progresses and reflecting things. and of course that has an impact on africa, doesn't take given nigeria is the most walk through this country largest economy. yes, it does have an impact with africa to a large extent for me will be that we need to evolve, you know, nickel stations on composition, central value. i was invited to be to the table. most of the chinese was finding a job. i'm very confident in many of the countries the quite told me to shoot quite over the phone security. the cartridge exceptional behavior likes onto those are those of structural and tional reform. we may not be able to bring the necessary growth and development african beach, particularly each other that goes on developing to be owned upon the advocates, the context of the prosperity that be, john, you know, really needs to be looked at, meet new levels of sustainable development the gospel of a of the nigerians think tank straightened all next. thank you so much for your

insights on this. we really appreciate it. thank you very much. front of me. by 2030. the will see it 1st truly in a while. more than half a body and people will remain poor eradication poverty is one of the 17 sustainable development goals. so s t g used to be met by that. yeah. which is 6 years to go many nations off track to achieving the s t cheese. the president of the un general assembly has launch the 1st sustainability weak. gabriel alexander has spoken to dennis francis at the high level discussions last week. he started by asking him, what's the importance of the initiative? the sustainable development agenda on which we involved, we being the united nations in 2015 has not matured with the expectation that we had progress to achieve the sustainable development goals for

a number of reasons. beyond the control of any individual country has slowed considerably. and so the goal was, in fact, off the truck, so we needed to stop for a moment. takes talk of what's happening and re focus and re engineer our efforts. so as to bring things back on track because we are midway through to the sustainable development. the timeframe which is 2030. let's talk about a few of the themes that have been discussed this week. and a number really struck me. it was $225.00 trillion dollars in global public debt. yeah, there's a debt crisis. you've said. how is this sustainable for the world to maintain

so much debt? well, let's understand what that $225.00 trillion dollars represents. that represents the current stock of global debt. that is, or the countries in the world, the debt that is owed by developing countries would be a proportion of that, that no, i, i don't have that number in my head, but i can say to you without fear of contradict contradiction that for developing countries, countries in the global, it's house. that number is also a huge number. and the thing with the debt is that it has to be repaid. what has happened in the case of the bill but south is that there is an extraordinary overhead of debt. and so countries developing countries and in particular,

countries in special situations, the most vulnerable ones, the landlocked countries, the least developed countries on the small island developing states are forced to make choices between repeating the interest on the debt. the interest, not the principal, just the interest of the interest on the debt they have to choose between paying the interest or using that money instead to finance sustainable development has to pay for schools to pay for medical facilities, health centers, etc. it's a very difficult choice. so uh, what needs to happen, what the, when has been advocating and the others is that the needs to be a reform of the international financial architecture. to usher in

a new period. which will allow countries in desperate circumstances, particularly the most vulnerable ones, to be able to borrow on less burden, some tunes that means ok, more affordable rates of interest. because as it stands at the moment, many developing countries are forced to borrow at 3 and 4 times the rates of interest that the average developed country borrows that. at the end of this week, what is the call for action? choose sustainability. choose sustainability. because in choosing sustainability, you will actually be making a plug for the long devotee of a species on this planet is the natural environment that creates the assets that we use to live on this planet successfully. and we have been successful,

but not without creating unnecessary damage and know the science of store to us. but we do not have to create damage, we can live sustainably. we can use resources in through all consumption buttons, most sensibly small to in order to minimize our footprint on the planet. and that is our show. so this way you can get in touch with us on the x, formerly known as theresa on at list put on them, and do use the hash tag a see to see when you do will drop us an email counting the cost at elena 0, dot net is our address, and as more for you online at all, just 0 dot com slash ctc. that'll take you straight to our page with the individual report links and tot episode soon as we catch up on that sets of this edition of counting the costs. um, elizabeth put on them from the whole team. thank you for joining us. the news on

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